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  1. Ixtlan

    Ixtlan emceeingain'tforyou...

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    Call it a purposeful retirement. If such a thing exists.
    Shawn "Jay-Z" Carter walked away from the game to prove a point.

    That's how he walked away. And damn if his detractors aren't eating crow now.
    After he exited stage left we saw the rise of some of the worst Rap to date.
    Sure there were shining moments here and there.
    Kanye did his part. Common's done his job.
    But the genre's been decidedly different.

    And just that quickly...
    He's back. Thank God for small favors.

    Wait, slow up slick 'fore you start shoveling a bunch of shit at me for writing a fluff piece for Jay. That ain't what this is about. Well, at least not entirely.

    Yeah, I'm a fan... Sue me.
    I dare you to tell me he ain't worthy of "greatest of all-time" consideration now (and trust me I got an argument waiting on you, Kon). He went on a near three year hiatus as a featured artist. Left it all at the top of his form. Shook the top spot to play executive. Three years later... He strolls back in and reclaims the top spot with a damn commercial for crying out loud.

    I've been waiting, you've been waiting (shut up you have).

    Now he's back to, if nothing else, push these Rap kids to at least come with their very best. The minstrel show may be on the verge of being cancelled. Ultimately, I'm just glad he's back to push that competitive spirit and force these cornballs to do good music again. With Ye, Common, Lupe, Kwe, The Roots and a few other acts accompanying him... Things seem to be looking up. We need as much good Rap as we can find...

    That is all...
    Carry on.
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  2. -Oz-

    -Oz- ^^^^^

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    ummm ok
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  3. Ixtlan

    Ixtlan emceeingain'tforyou...

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    In a forum where we've seen recent thread favorites such as: "What Rapper Is Best At Fighting? (No Weapons)" you're shook over this one?

    Umm ok...
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  4. THIEF

    THIEF New Member

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    lol@ common

    i'd laugh at kanye too but his debut wasnt half bad. this being said,
    lol@ common.
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  5. Ixtlan

    Ixtlan emceeingain'tforyou...

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    Not quite sure why you're laughing, but carry on.
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  6. thedream233

    thedream233 Thrillmatic

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    exactly.
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  7. THIEF

    THIEF New Member

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    wassup with ur weird ass ancient aztec name

    and common is hot garbage, that is why im laughing.
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  8. thedream233

    thedream233 Thrillmatic

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    I'm sorry, but there is no way in hell I'll ever call Jay-z one of the greatest of all time, although he probably will go down as the greatest of all time one of these days because almost everyone thinks he is.
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  9. Ixtlan

    Ixtlan emceeingain'tforyou...

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    "Disclaimer: Have a take, don't suck."

    I knew I should've tagged that onto the end of the post.

    Look, unless you care to elaborate on why you think Common's hot garbage (which is odd for an emcee who carries as much respect as he does) then I'm not sure why you bothered to post anything at all.

    As for my handle... I don't know...
    I guess I chose that name because I wasn't quite clever enough to think of something as original as, say, "THIEF".
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  10. Ixtlan

    Ixtlan emceeingain'tforyou...

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    You don't have to agree that he's the "greatest of all time".
    I think you'd be really short-sighted though if you couldn't see he was at least worthy of such consideration...Which is what I said originally.
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  11. thedream233

    thedream233 Thrillmatic

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    ^^^I said "one of the greatest of all time" (not sure if thats the right grammar) ^^^

    I dont think Jay's among any of the best rappers throughout hip hop history, I dont care how many albums he's had.
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  12. Ixtlan

    Ixtlan emceeingain'tforyou...

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    That's the purpose of this thread TD.
    It's open for discussion and every kind of opinion.
    You may not think he's even "one" of the greatest of all-time.

    I'd love to know why, but I'm certainly not mad at you.
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  13. thedream233

    thedream233 Thrillmatic

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    When I compare his verses to my favorite rappers' verses, it seems like they are all light years ahead of him (Nas, Eminem, Louis Logic). His music isn't that creative either. Its as if its enough just to hear over and over again that he sold crack almost 20 years ago. Back in the day, he was an excellent rapper, when he was doing songs like Dead Presidents D'Evils, Lucky Me, or even Big Pimpin. But about halfway though his career, he simplified both his flow and his lyrics. He still has made some quality music since then, but not nearly as much as before. And even his reasonable doubt music (although it is excellent) I feel that its just excellent for Jay-z. I believe that what carried him throughout his entire career is his uncanny ability to pick out great beats. Once you got the people feelin the beat, nothing else really seems to matter.
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  14. The_K3

    The_K3 ^Secksi^

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    jayz loves little boys.
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  15. THIEF

    THIEF New Member

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    ha this dude
    "look *sigh* if ur not gona elaborate on why you think common sucks just get out *rollz eyez*"

    i have to do nothing but point out how the quality of his music has deteriorated from his original release.
    he was at his apex during the whole "i used to love her" /resurrection days. everything thereafter has been anything but impressive. then erykah badu turned him into a bigger faggot than he already was, fuckin had this dude wearin home-made knit beanies and extra small shirts in videos holdin cue-cards for his imaginary deaf girlfriend
    "are your eyes still green girl?" what kinda hoe ass shit is that
    ppl sweat common like its a trend, aside from the aforementioned material i have never been even remotely impressed by this nerd.



    what a fuckin joke.
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  16. MistaChipz

    MistaChipz New Member

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    lol @ chino and canibus...


    Common is dope, corny at times, but dope........


    props on this thread, shit needed to be said....
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  17. MistaChipz

    MistaChipz New Member

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    I actually think "Like water for chocolate" was/is his best lp....everything post that is ehhhh..."BE" minus a few joints WAS ASS, imo....Electric Circus and One day It will All make sense were ass imo....
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  18. nappyjim

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    except he never really left. He did enough guest spots to make an album.
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  19. -Oz-

    -Oz- ^^^^^

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    LOL. Well your post don't leave much to respond to.
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  20. Offbeat

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    jay-z is definately not the goat

    cam is DUH

    plus tupac, 50 cent, and eminem are better then him too
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