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  1. menaz

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    How come germany doesn't have a Jewish history month?


    America - is responseable for massive genocide of blacks.
    Germany - is responseable for massive genocide of Jews.
    America - revoked black civil rights.
    germany - revoked jewish civil rights.
    America - raped black women.
    Germany - raped jewish women.
    America - enslaved a culturals/nationality.
    Germany - enslaved a culturals/nationality.
    Germany - Anti-semitic. e.g. Shylock? devil horns? hook nose? kike?
    America - racist. e.g. N.igger? m.onkey? c.oon?


    roughly 200,000 jews still live in germany. The way I figure germany should give the jews April as their history month.

    Could it be that racial mindsets are products of social constructionism therefore, only a racial mindset can have a history month?
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  2. UnbrokeN

    UnbrokeN Well-Known Member

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    maybe its because you have a lot more blacks than we do have jews..their culture and political/historical figures matter a lot more to their history...as you said we only have 200k jews here..thats a pretty small group. and germans are constantly reminded of their undoings in the past anyway, and are still paying for it in a way

    also, there was never a genocide on blacks...slavery and having no rights doesnt equal genocide
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  3. menaz

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    That's a bullshit answer.

    culture and historical figures, matter to both.


    common and please explain NO black genocide? How you going to tell anyone this? When 17,267,000 Africans were murdered? When it still effects blacks with mental anguish today? and When the black race was in part destoried and biologically changed?


    What kind of germany crack-rock are you on, the nazi?

    you didn't answer the question either.
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  4. BeEgEe

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    like your bullshit solution to give jews april?????????


    and once again you have confused what genocide is.

    murder, now matter how grand the scale is not GENOCIDE!!!!!!!!.

    it is simply not recognized as genocide




    GENOCIDE es very specific.



    oh and by the way

    what were you thinking
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  5. UnbrokeN

    UnbrokeN Well-Known Member

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    you made a bullshit thread and got a more than deserving bullshit reply.
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  6. menaz

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    Funny you say this, When R. J. Rummel classfies what happend to blacks as genocide.

    You're fucking retard. And I have had about enough of your retarded shit.
    Answer the fucking question, You worthless piece of scum, or move on.

    Everyone on this site except a few are retarded.
    You're so fucking stupid it makes me sick.

    any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    (a) Killing members of the group;
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

    Any of the following acts. I can point out four.

    etymology of Genocide:

    In greek - Genos = tribe or race.
    In latin - cide = for killing

    You need your dumb ass kicked.
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  7. menaz

    menaz Avant Garde

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    you can't answer the question. Because you know i'm correct.
    Germany should give the jews a history month in april.
    Deflection will get you no where.

    You're actually proving my point, only the racial mindset is allowed a history month.
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  8. BeEgEe

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    what happened to the jew in germany - genocide
    what happened to the blacks en route to america - slavery


    I know genocide
    you don't

    I use the term genocide very specifically
    you don't


    Some aspects of what happened to blacks during slavery are tantamount to genocide. But that doesn't make it genocide.



    They were enslaved, they were not systematically wiped out.
    And the slave trade involved 20 + other countries.

    A better case would be the genocide committed against the Indian Tribes of the Americas



    calm down menaz calm down

    ur wrong.
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  9. BeEgEe

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    lol.


    your going no where, fast


    hahaha
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  10. menaz

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    You can't be this big of a dunce.

    17,267,000 Africans were murdered by white men.

    What happen to the jews enroute to the death camps?
    what happen once the jews got to the death camps?

    Blacks and jews were both slaves and murdered.

    You're arguing genocide, Not even the actually topic.
    You're argument is a red herring and incorrect,
    What you don't know is the word comes from greek and latin.
    Not knowing Raphael Lemkin allowed it to be ratified.
    I have clearly defined genocide here. The murder of blacks on route to america and the murder of blacks in america is genocide.






    I know genocide. Rummel knows genocide.
    The convention knows genocide. You don't
    know shit, You're a annoying fruit fly.




    LOL@ you contradicting yourself.

    First it wasn't genocide, Now it's essentially equal to it.

    You are a fucking dope.



    Nither were the jews. One does not have to be systematically wiped out.
    Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.

    If we go by your logic, What happend to the jews wasn't genocide.
    Shut up, fool.

    No that was domcide witch falls under one of the three catagories of genocide. You complete and utterly spastic idoit molecule.



    You're wrong. And you need your dumb ass kicked.
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  11. menaz

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    YOu don't know shit. You fucking internet troll.
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  12. UnbrokeN

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    lmao menaz...i dont know man. you are right when you say both groups were harmed and many killed during the procedures..and they were basically both seen as 2nd or 3rd class, or not even as human beings at all. but jews were brought to ovens as you know...blacks usually died during either the transportation to american, or later doing hazardous work..its a diffrent situation because after all whites were really dependant upon their black slaves, doing al lthe dirty work for them without getting paid even. one could argue that jews also played a role working in those camps, but i dont think the goal was to keep jews there forever..the goal was to use jews to suupport the military and once they realized the war isnt winnable, they decided to kill them all...cant really compare to african american situation.
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  13. UnbrokeN

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    hmm wait...menaz is right. mosst jews actually died durign the procedues, died of illnesses in those camps..the only diffrence is jews were gassed in the end, which made it look more systematically and ideologically bad..
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  14. menaz

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    Also Blacks were lynched & burned. Blacks were even tied to crosses and burned.

    Oven
    burning Cross.

    And Regardless, Genocide isn't about what INSTRUMENT TO CAUSE DEATH!

    Now answer the question.

    Don't jews deserve a History month in April?
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  15. UnbrokeN

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    depends on what reasoning..if its to lecture germans about their past even more, then it wont do any good but increase anti semitism. if its to inform people mostly about jewish culture in general , how Jews were regarded throughout time, where jews settled, the diffrent jewish tribes, how they assimilated in various countries, how they were treated and regarded in general and how they were basically forced to work in the financial businesses since the middle ages, then yes it could help to end a lot of prejudice and misconception, especially among youths.
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  16. menaz

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    The latter naturally.

    I'll take that as a yes. And thank you for finally understanding the question at hand.

    plus if you think about it, Germany's already ridiculed over it, So that isn't the intent here. The intent here is to mend.
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  17. BeEgEe

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    surplus cruelty does not make it genocide.

    you can just throw around the word.


    lol
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  18. BeEgEe

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    LOL.

    the term is very specific.

    everything has to fit.


    The US govenment did not intend to wipe out all blacks in africa and the islands
    a PRIVATE slave trade didn't even intend to wipe out all blacks.

    its called Slavery not Genocide.


    GENOCIDE
    1.Mass
    2.Government Led


    Who were the authors of the Genocide?

    Who was running the show?
    had control of all the perpetrators?
    controlled the auxilliaries?
    Who were the managers.


    these are all key roles in a genocide.





    Genocide is not an accurate term to describe what happened during the slave trade.

    Slaves were brought here for ecomnomic gain.

    Wiping out the black race was never the goal.
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