Discussion in 'The Sanctuary' started by Geedorah, Apr 26, 2013.
Bronies are braver
because they lack intellect and we don't?
and we have the means of free will, where as animals do what they do naturally.
Humans do not have free will.
cant just leave it at that ^^^ lol
What intellect, to kill everything for fun?
'We are all really just animals - that are taught to act like human beings at a young age
- Mike Tyson
Any fool quoting Mike Tyson is mentally touched.
Whats wrong with Mike?
how dare you
Mike is a great man
What is there to elaborate?
The idea that we have a soul that makes choices? That's just psychology. Psychology is only applied biology. Biology is only applied chemistry. Chemistry is only applied physics. Physics is only applied math. Math will never say that at the end of 1 + 1 you get to choose what it equals.
Everything is predetermined, we have no choice in the matter. Not on this side of the veil at least.
but... i do what i want...
predetermination as in 'its all written' no matter what we do
is the core of nihilistic philosophy
homicide, suicide, boston bombings - we have choices
nothing is 'the way it is' or 'meant to be'
i dont buy into self-defeat
no, the part of the brain that separates rational from irrational.
the intellect that got humans this far in terms of science and techonology.
the fucking birds are flying the same way they flew before dinosaurs and shit.
whereas we went from caves to outerspace, to space colonisation and who knows what.
There are universal/eternal laws all things are subject to.
then there are laws only material objects are subject to.
then there are commands that God gave to man to live by that is for their benefit
its up to man to chose to follow them or not.
we have choices. but what determines which choice we'll make?
your mind, and the knowledge you have?
we believe in pre-ordainment to an extent to "rizk".
the arabic word for "rizk" directly translates to sustenance.
it can include anything from wealth, your health, your offspring, and knowledge.
so if somebody has no knowledge on certain matters, he/she is not judged the same as those who do.
but how you get to it is totally upto you, which is where the concept of free will comes into play.
my outlook on this follows that of the founder of pakistan, a farsi poet - ilama iqbal.
he said "you have been given the ink. it is up to you to write your destiny".
so the ink you have is limited but it's up to you how you use it and what you do.
here's how i meant it: when you go to the ice cream shop you can choose to get chocolate, but you don't actually choose to like chocolate. it's just something you like. that's basically how our instincts and intellect interact. there's nothing free about it.
Thats like open theology.
People who believe in free will basically believe in magic.
If you can create a falsifiable experiment to prove what you're saying, great.
your knowledge comes with experience.
you must've experienced chocolate flavour prior to entering the shop and liked it.
you obviously choose to like chocolate because you could've chosen vanilla.
in short, i don't have an answer to why we choose the things we choose.
everybody has different choices, and that is pretty much free will, no?
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