why is biggie considered elite with rhymes

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  1. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    This generation has an acute ability to misunderstand anything, and they will ride for their own foolishness.....youth<>....
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  2. ThatsNotMyName

    ThatsNotMyName The Conquering Lion

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    He didn't even said he wasn't a GOAT, but just that he wasn't an elite "scheme" rapper? You getting lost in communication, knasayin.

    And even at that... he trolling.
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  3. Ignorant

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    Biggie stepped up his lyrical game around '95... particularly ever since the "One More Chance (Remix)"... I think too many are focusing on '92-'94 for their argument against him being a schematic rapper... he realized the competition was getting better and so did he... Nas raised the stakes with Illmatic... and cats like Raekwon, Ghostface, Biggie, etc. stepped up their games, too.
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  4. ThatsNotMyName

    ThatsNotMyName The Conquering Lion

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    Plus Biggie spits unexpected like bird shit. He didn't write. So plus 1 point.
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  5. Mel Man

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    Woord? BIG was lyrically sharp in 94, he bodied One More Chance (original)!
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  7. ronnie enclade

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    let me say for the record biggie was dope he made great music but as a mc to me he wasn't all that great lyrically.
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  8. Ignorant

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    Yeah, he was... but he got even doper around '95... his style was more basic early in his career... but he was never wack.
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  9. Ignorant

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    Word... he could freestyle for days... something that a lot of intricate rappers can't do.
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    this nigga ronnie is good
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  12. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    making lines concise and to the point, while saying something that hits hard, is usually the more difficult skill to master in rhyming.....Big had this as a natural ability which worked perfectly with his unmatched delivery....Jay has the ability to be creatively short and direct as well.....Nas can do this too, though he often goes for the more wordy approach these days.....shit slug has this ability also....

    so often, excessive use of words and disregard for rhythm, seem to be attempts to disguise things that are less than impressive.....some people seem to fight this notion as well as the larger picture of music.....
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  13. Smouble ML

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    Bighie was sooooo elite man. He did commercial music, thug music, trap music, back pack music, he did cypher lyrical freestyles. He was the epitome of Jordan of rap. He even mentioned it on victory
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  14. Twamp

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    and he got all that influence from Pac wow :dbledreams:
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  16. Ignorant

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    The wisest sayings are often the simplest.
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  17. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    word...being complex is easier and less powerful.....
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  18. Ignorant

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    One of my most favorite lines by Nas is "props is a true thug's wife."

    No long elaborate multi couplet... no cryptic metaphor... just an acute observation of street culture.

    Andre3000 talked about simplicity being greater than complexity when he mentioned Q-Tip as a his favorite rapper of all time... then he quoted his line from "Verses from the Abstract"... "the world is kinda cold and the rhythm is my blanket/ wrap yourself up in it, if you love it, then you'll thank it"... To a multi head or a cryptic metaphor head or a punchline head, that line is WACK as FUCK, son... get that bullshit outta here... you old heads on that nostalgic, simple shit... fuck you... lol... but that's because they're missing the forest for the trees... tongue-twisting raps ain't shit if you're not saying anything timeless...
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  19. ThatsNotMyName

    ThatsNotMyName The Conquering Lion

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    "Fuck hip-hop jingles, rhyming big words and not saying shit"
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  20. NinjaMic

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    You can hear that specific kind of Q Tip influence all over Andre's verse on this:

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