why is biggie considered elite with rhymes

Discussion in 'Hip-Hop Central' started by ronnie enclade, Jan 7, 2014.

  1. ronnie enclade

    ronnie enclade Member

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    Euology preached by the minister, the sinister diminished ya
    You minature, send crazy baby, fifths is ta finish ya
    Bust shots ta limit ya, plush Glocks ta hemmorrige ya
    What cops got the image of, made em block perimeters
    They ended up, back in forth beef I walk the streets, neva be prisoner
    My lawyer's a close friend of the senator
    You was full of shit, you shoulda took a enema
    It mighta not been ten of us, murderers turnin' your street into a cinema
    Swingin' gats like pendulums, shit out the nine double, I'm him and em
    Max wit hundred gats and I'm the minimum
    Sendin' em, but sick of all this, I take a step back
    And spit the torris in yo moms and chick won't trist ta hit the floor is
    Makin' em clip the forest, it's G scar fold
    Turnin' yo body weight ta cargo
    While I stretch ya, ya bet ya'll lay fall go
    Harps played in the dark like he was harpo
    Get ya hit quicker than Carlo, Gambino
    Rain on cities like El Nino, live well in Reno
    Scarf with the cartiers and Bossolino
    Scammin' the profits in casinos
    Knock wigs off like therapy wit chemo

    biggie has no rhyme scheme as sick as this imo
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  2. Bill Stacks

    Bill Stacks Corrupt Kid

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    Biggie Smalls was one of the most significant influences for lyrics and flow, he was one of the best of his time there might be some lyricists today but he still deserves respect
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  3. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    they're called rappers, and hip-hop artists.

    not fucking rhyme scheme creators.

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  4. RichY RiCh

    RichY RiCh f.C.k 4ever

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    Wtf it's just the flow on the words the wordplay on it, the way the words cone together and paint a picture and tell stories so vividly. I love rhyme schemes some of my fav are fabulous, eminem, Juelz, Kendrick, Chino xl, Andre, nas, and talib who master rhyme schemes. Stfu and acting stupid. Beatles weren't lyricists cuz they didn't have nerdy complex rhyme schemes?

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  5. Vulgar

    Vulgar 80s baby

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    I don't seem so bad now not liking Pac. I atleast Irespect his impact on hip hop. He's just not my personal taste. To say Biggie isn't elite is blasphemy. He is the total package it's nothing he couldn't do. Hands down the greastest storyteller of all time. DEAD@Treach c'mon bruh.

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  6. Ignorant

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    Ronnie/mak/Esoteriq... I explained it in the other thread... I don't have the time or patience to literally transcribe his verses from a schematic standpoint for you to really understand... but you have to agree that 'variable' is more complex than 'fixed' to understand where I'm coming from... you keep naming Pun, but Pun's schemes are simpler than Big's.
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  7. Ignorant

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    Biggie is no Pharoahe Monch, who I think might be the best in schemes, next to Nas or early Ras Kass... but he's also not average and above most cats.
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  8. Mel Man

    Mel Man Wat ya'll bout to witness

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    ^Woord @Monch..

    What made Monch dope was mixin his schemes with stories, like on "Queens",,,I need more time with Monch though, I listened to all Nas/Ras Kass shit,,,been meaning to throw INternal Affairs in the ride for a minute now,,,n just let it ride for a couple weeks.
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  9. ThatsNotMyName

    ThatsNotMyName The Conquering Lion

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    Monch = Top 5 doa, definition of underrated.
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  10. Mel Man

    Mel Man Wat ya'll bout to witness

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  11. Ignorant

    Ignorant Village Idiot

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    If you really want to get into Monch, you should start with the first Organized Konfusion album and go from there... their second joint, Stress: The Extinction Agenda is a cult classic among '90s backpackers and purists, but both of those albums are considered classic by critics and hip hop fans knowledgeable of the culture...

    That's why when I first heard Ras Kass in the early '90s, he reminded me of a long lost member of OK... I think they were a big inspiration on him...
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  12. Mel Man

    Mel Man Wat ya'll bout to witness

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    ^woord, def gon peep som OK shit!

    I'm just in that Internal Affairs mood right now,,,heard it years ago but only been peepin tracks here n there since

    Pharoahe the truth, who came the best on this joint @Ig? An effortless Monch, a seasoned Common, n young up n comin Talib,,,Monch had the best flow easy and builds up his verses like no other in that he gets better as he goes like he warms up n then heats up, COmmon the most introspective and captures the listener the best, n Talib the hungriest

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  13. Ignorant

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    Damn, it's hard to pick... I used to go back and forth on that amongst all of them... I was a bigger Common fan back then, so I used to say him mostly... but Talib and Monch bring it, too.
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  14. ThatsNotMyName

    ThatsNotMyName The Conquering Lion

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    Internal Affairs >>>

    Although I haven't listened to it in a while, cause I kept that shit on repeat in the past. But every song is amazing on that album.

    'had her coming like Niagara falls when I bagged her'
    Monch's flow and quotables man daaamn lol
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  15. ronnie enclade

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    there is no such as " fixed " rhyme schemes anyway with multisyllable rhyming as long as the syllables rhyme and match in syllable count it is complex to me also u can rhyme it however u want imo.
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  16. Kry

    Kry Willie Stylus

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    I'm sorry to sound like a bitter old head...but these young cats don't know shit, you weren't there. You're perception of Hiphop is what resulted from these legends paving the way, and to not respect that and make outlandish statements that you can't possibly justify thru any type of experiance is so fuckin stupid. It's like when I was young and thought The Beatles were wack and corny...I was a fuckin young retard who didn't understand shit. The fact that the overwhelming majority of Hiphop recognizes BIG's elite staus and you don't, shows you just don't get it. So deprive yourself of one of the most legendary artists Hiphop has ever had, just becuz you want the technical robot shit that you get now. BIG had the total package that it takes to be considered one of the GOAT's...I'll continue to bump BIG's music till I'm dead and gone, while y'all young cats find a new cookie cutter rapper every couple of years to claim is the GOAT. Good rappers don't survive in today's Hiphop becuz of mentalities like this...Kendrick will get the boot in a year or 2 and the next GOAT will step in with the newest gimmick "scheme". Rappers never used to talk this "technical" shit...but they have no soul to their shit no more so they gotta set the bar somewhere. Whatever happened to just being a dope rapper? Like there are actual apps on your phone that can take you talking and make you sound exactly like these rappers nowadays, but we're sitting here debating BIG's legitimacy as an elite rhymer...I'm fuckin baffled right now.
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  17. ronnie enclade

    ronnie enclade Member

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    and im sorry i don't want to come off as a elitist but rap to me has always been about the technical ability to me.
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  18. Bill Stacks

    Bill Stacks Corrupt Kid

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    if rap was always technical nobody would have started listening to it not even you and being technical does not always mean having overly complex rhymes
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  19. ronnie enclade

    ronnie enclade Member

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    this makes no sense whatsoever
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  20. Bill Stacks

    Bill Stacks Corrupt Kid

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    im saying not all good rappers have to be complex to be good there are different types of rappers, if everyone was trying to create the more complex rhymes rap would get pretty convoluted
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