Who do you got? FITCH or MAIA!? *SuperBowl-Weekend*

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Fitch or Maia?

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  1. Jon Fitch. Easy Answer.

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  2. Damian Maia. No Question.

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  1. LungZzZ

    LungZzZ Well-Known Member

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    :hoffawut:

    That's right,
    Fitch is back in action taking on another opponent on a win streak,
    and it is none other than Brazilian Submission specialist Damian Maia.

    Are you siding with the 34 year old Fitch,
    or Damian, who recently finished Rick Story and Dong Hyun Kim in the first round?​
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  2. brodeezy

    brodeezy take this fuccin neg

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    Shields made Fitch look like an amateur in ADCC, so if Maia can tie him up and drag him to the ground he should be able to dominate. Otherwise we're in for a boring striking match with 0 chance of a finish.
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  3. Tha Cunnysmythe

    Tha Cunnysmythe Unsavoury Negroid

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    ^this post highlights how badass fitch's grappling must be

    have never seen him have to strike for any length of time
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  4. Makabreli

    Makabreli done

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    shields was also a wrestler.

    Fitch will stuff any and all offense and suffocate Maia. Easy night at the office
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  5. brodeezy

    brodeezy take this fuccin neg

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    ... What does him being a wrestler have anything to do with it? It was a jitz match.
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  6. Tha Cunnysmythe

    Tha Cunnysmythe Unsavoury Negroid

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    ^wrestlers excel at bjj because they're good at takedowns, top control and transitions - they basically do wrestling with a twist

    rashad's a bjj black belt but when was the last time you saw him do anything impressive from a bjj standpoint
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  7. brodeezy

    brodeezy take this fuccin neg

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    Do you know what ADCC is? Just being a blackbelt doesn't cut it and you will never see pure wrestlers do well in it. GSP got subbed in like 10 seconds by the same guy Shields choked out in under a minute in the next round even though GSP is a better wrestler.
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  8. DogMeat

    DogMeat New Member

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    interesting fight in my opinion damiens been looking like a kingpin at 170 but jons a grinder he beat the crap out of erik silva and i didnt expect that. tough fight to pick a winner for me anyway
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  9. Tha Cunnysmythe

    Tha Cunnysmythe Unsavoury Negroid

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    not the point

    was saying that shields has that advantage plus serious bjj skill

    whereas maia lacks that wrestling element
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  10. brodeezy

    brodeezy take this fuccin neg

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    You're exaggerating the effectiveness of wrestling. If it goes to the ground, Maia is at a huge advantage. Even if Fitch is on top, Maia should be considered at an advantage (but the "unified" North America rules/judging sucks)

    Go down Fitch's resume and tell me the best grappler he's gone to the ground with. Take that and his failures in ADCC and you'll understand. Don't get me wrong, he's a top WW. But Maia is much, MUCH better at Jitz and Fitch will try to keep this fight standing at all costs.

    Maia:

    Grappling credentials

    * ADCC World Submission Wrestling Championships
    o ADCC 2007 77–87 kg: 1st place
    o ADCC 2005 77–87 kg: 2nd place
    * CBJJ World Championships
    o 2001 Brown Belt Medio-Pesado: 2nd Place
    o 2000 Purple Belt Medio-Pesado: 1st Place
    o 1999 Blue Belt Medio: 2nd Place
    * CBJJ Brazilian Championships
    o 2006 Black Belt Absolute: 2nd Place & Black Belt Medium Heavy: =3rd Place
    o 2002 Brown Belt Medio-Pesado: =3rd Place
    o 2001 Brown Belt Medio-Pesado: 1st Place & Brown Belt Medio-Pesado: =3rd Place
    * CBJJ Brazilian Team Championships
    o 2003 Brown/Black Pesada: Master, 1st Place
    o 2002 Brown/Black Pesada: Alliance, 2nd Place
    o 2001 Brown/Black Pesada: Alliance, 1st Place
    o 2000 Purple Belt Pesada: Alliance, 1st Place
    * CBJJO Copa Del Mundo
    o 2005 −85 kg Black Belt: 1st Place
    o 2003 Black Belt Meio Pesado: 3rd Place & Black Belt Absolute: 1st Place
    o 2002 Black Belt Meio Pesado: 1st Place & Black Belt Absolute: 2nd Place

    Jake Shields:

    Submission grappling

    * Abu Dhabi Combat Club
    o 2005 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships bronze medalist

    * International Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation
    o 2005 Pan American Championships gold medalist

    * International Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Federation
    o 2007 Gracie Open Superfight champion (against Fitch, wasn't tournament format. Fitch's only fight in the event iirc)

    * Grapplers Quest
    o Grapplers Quest Advance champion (three times)

    Jon Fitch:



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  11. Tha Cunnysmythe

    Tha Cunnysmythe Unsavoury Negroid

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    very persuasive...
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  12. Makabreli

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    difference between jiu jitsu/submission wrestling and mma is in jiu jitsu two guys agree to go to the ground and find out who is the better sub artist.

    this is mma, where guys like martin kampmann and chris weidman make guys like jake shields and demian maia look like shit. stuffing is what jon fitch does in MMA.
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  13. brodeezy

    brodeezy take this fuccin neg

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    What the fuck at Kampmann making Shields look like shit? Did you forget that a completely gassed Shields after round 1 took Kampmann and passed his guard at will? Almost landed an equal amount of strikes?

    Also, I was clearly discussing grappling credentials stating that if the fights hits the ground Maia is at an advantage. No shit he has the potential to not get tied up by Maia, but that's not what we were talking about there little guy.
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  14. Makabreli

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    uh oh, second time the "little guy" comment has made its presence. get this man some midol.

    and I believe this thread is talking about who will win an MMA fight, not a pure grappling match.

    and yes, striker Martin Kampmann took on your wikipedia hero Jake Shields, abandoned his striking, and quite possibly took rounds 2 and 3. Not bad for a guy who used to get subbed everyday when he first entered xtreme couture.
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  15. brodeezy

    brodeezy take this fuccin neg

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    Hence why in my initial post I said "if" it gets to the ground. Which you replied with "OMG BUT HERP DERP HES NOT A WRESTLER LOLOL"

    and in literally what way did Kampmann do a single thing to Shields..? "Wikipedia hero" made Kampmann part of his win streak while he was completely fuckin' gassed. Took him down whenever he wanted, passed guard whenever he wanted, got full mount whenever he wanted. Kampmann had literally nothing going for him in that fight, and I like Kampmann mostly because he trains with Sefo and Ray Sefo is that nigga
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  16. Makabreli

    Makabreli done

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    Actually, you were comparing some fucking grappling match Fitch had with Shields a decade ago to the fight that Fitch is about to have with Maia. Someone had to bonk you in the head and remind you that Jake Shields and Demian Maia are two people with two different backgrounds.

    "But omgz wikipedia says taht he won dese submission matches and fitch didn't, [random interchangeable insult about person who made you butthurt not watching MMA before TUF]."
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  17. brodeezy

    brodeezy take this fuccin neg

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    Yet what does their background matter when I said -IF- it goes to the ground? I don't care if it doesn't, I said if it does then Maia will dominate because his level of jitz is far past Fitch's. The Shields grappling match proved that Fitch isn't as good on the ground as the UFC has hyped him up to be. And the credentials were further proof of that. He's a more complete MMA fighter, sure, but that isn't what I mentioned in that specific part of my post. I said IF it goes to the ground. Everything you said is irrelevant because you chose to ignore that.


    And who the fuck says bonk?
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