White privilege , overt racism and closet racism in battle rap.

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  1. SpecialOhEmPics

    SpecialOhEmPics Well-Known Member

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    so this thread is about the problem in battle rap

    I ain't seen no one name drop one person

    who does this? who are u guys addressing

    obviously not the fans right
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  2. D-Lor

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    Especially the fans tbh
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  3. SpecialOhEmPics

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    doesen't sound like nothing wrong with that at all


    but im not tryna say it doesen't happen
    theres tons of fuck heads out there

    i thought u were trying to say in general this is what most
    white people do. maybe im slow but i dont get what ur arguying
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  4. antilluminati

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    Even is someone "called you cracker" cus they believe you to be superior is racist. Believeing that we are separate and should be treated like that is racist, no matter what side of the hierarchy. It's like its allowed to be racist towards white "because whites have it good" or some stupid shit like that. 1. "Rasism is a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement."

    Then again, If you don't believe in that bullshit, that's all good. But seriously fuck you if you assume I do cus I'm white.

    Reverse racism: "The term reverse racism has been used to describe racism (in one sense or another) by a group that has traditionally been oppressed, against a traditionally more-empowered group. However, some argue that this distinction does not need to be made, and advocate using simply the term racism; others have argued conversely that the term racism should not be used at all in such cases."

    I argue the fact that racism is racism, if you act like a dick towards me BECAUSE I'm white, I won't think thats "fine" because you have been at some point or are related to someone who has met a white person who discriminated against you. Racial profiling is for assholes who play the same game as the racists, dickheads.
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  5. SpecialOhEmPics

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    if this wasen't true

    we would be like dlor is saying this cuz he's black.

    we so neutral we ain't even stoopin to same level lmao

    my personal opinion, i think either every1 should be allowed to racially profile or nobody should be allowed to. no exceptions with one sided shit.
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  6. antilluminati

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    Yeah, Imma say it again:

    I'm dating you sister, do you have a problem with this because I'm white?

    Yes = fuck you racist cunt
    No = my brother

    Do you have a problem with me using the term brother towards you because I'm white and you're not?

    Yes = fuck you you seperatist cunt
    No = my man
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  7. D-Lor

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    It depends though. Not every racial statement is racist.

    A black person calling a white person a cracker CAN be racist, but it's not necessarily in the way that most people think is all I'm saying. And there's absolutely no equivalency between that word and the n-bomb.
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  8. SiegeSupreme

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    I don't believe most whites are racist. I just think they benefit from institutional racism without realizing it, and then for some reason vehemently deny it.

    People like Eyerate don't want to admit that they benefited from institutional racism, because then it would take away from their whole "look at me, i started off bad and made it" argument. The fact is it isn't an even playing field and white people always have the advantage.

    & I don't think the fact that you keep denying this simple fact despite all the evidence in this thread to the contrary makes you racist. I think growing up white has made you ignorant to the existence of institutional racism.

    Look at the bolded. Not near the majority? Eyerate's "experience" isn't near the majority, yet white people in this thread continually reference to it and claim he's "bodying" the thread. Yet, I post facts and statistics referencing entire STATES and none of them read it because it proves them wrong.
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  9. MarcH29

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    Hello, everyone in this thread: Please stop spouting your uninformed nonsense - you do not understand social structures, race attributes, ideas of equality etc. Instead read Stuart Hall, Edward Said, and Gayatri Spivak's analyses of race, society and gender. Then apply it to battle rap.
    If you don't understand it, then I don't really fucking care and you're pretty much useless to talk to.

    D-Lor is the closest to being 'on point' in this thread.
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  10. SpecialOhEmPics

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    u live in a country where most people rather be
    lead by a black person than a white person for like what 4 years now?

    all i was ever taught in school about other races is how equal they are

    that was a clear point the education system i went through made
    starting from when I was very young
    1 black kid in my high school and we learnt all about mlk
    and segregation, I was assigned to do papers on a jackie robinson book
    2 seperate years, on how he's an inspiration, as a human
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  11. SpecialOhEmPics

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    i think all these people real life person experiences
    are better than 1 guys prob biased point of view.

    u sound like u think ur smart
    u come off very narrow minded
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  12. SiegeSupreme

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    Honestly, that's part of the problem. They're not equal, and you being taught you are all of your life has made you ignorant to the fact that white privilege exists and that you've either benefited from it already or will benefit from it at some point in your life.

    "Unaware/Unintentional Racism: “With the best of intentions, the best of educations, and the greatest generosity of heart, whites, operating on the misinformation fed to them from day one, will behave in ways that are racist, will perpetuate racism by being ‘nice’ the way we’re taught to be nice."
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  14. antilluminati

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    Namecalling is what it is, the "n-word" has history and is of course something that would have a heavier punch to it, it would evoke more feeling and reaction no doubt, no matter who you are if you're not racist actually. But whatever slur you use to demean or separate yourself from other ethnic groups I'll find racist; paki, gook, cracker etc. The n-word is like burning the quran, while saying cracker is like taking the piss out of an atheist, it's just not going to have the same effect. It's still mockery, and if not done in a jokingly light hearted and mutually enjoyable fashion, is usually done by someone who is prejudice towards a different ethnicity ie racist. In what degree and how bad they feel about it is variable, and to what effect it might have, this is debatable but Im just saying; nevertheless. If we can stand side by side and feel equal that's what I wan't to achieve, that's why I earlier said we have to move on, and we can't as long as I'm supposed to feel guilty and you are supposed to feel victimized or spiteful of our common ancestry and history. (lol, saying this makes me realize I am somehow taking responsibilty for this even tho my history traces back to norwegian farmers for centuries, lol. See; we're being conditioned into perpetuating this.)
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  15. Eyerate

    Eyerate The Definition of Real..

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    the answer to your idiotic question is in this very fucking thread... you really should have been a blowjob.
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  16. Eyerate

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    huh? you must lack reading comprehension as well. what i said was pretending like institutionalized racism has any serious bearing is a shitty attempt to discredit my accomplishments. its "oh eyerate is paid because hes white." the reality is far from that nonsense.
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  17. Eyerate

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    church.
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  18. martymcfly

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    have you answered how you got the money for your FIRST business yet?
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  19. Eyerate

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    yes... in this very thread. go show your worth and find it.
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  20. antilluminati

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    I came from the same side of earth as this guy, and I got introduced to these issues through the same medium he did. I felt like this when I was a kid. MANY white kids grow up feeling this, It could probably tell you something about why those of us who are white get offended, but mostly upset, by alienation, spite and prejudice. As we feel we have a common cause we have to fight, and the focus should be on fighting it together. This is why I'm calling it a class war, and why I'm saying petty race segregation between us all who are on the bottom is just prolonging the problem and is a joke. Never have I said racism is a non existent problem, on the contrary, listen to Promoe preach:



    I grew up on some hardcore rap shit battle
    Spit, back to back - fuck the wack shit
    It was all gangsta rap and political black power
    Once a week i'd tape radio's rap hour
    Way before i thought about a hidden agenda
    I was hatin my white skin and hatin my gender
    Didn't wanna represent rapists and murderers
    The white man's burden is not what you heard it is
    It ain't about a mission to christian the heathens
    But it's connected to that vision of us as superior Beings
    And the world's darkest history
    His story is my story it ain't no mystery
    Why our children seeking chemical relief
    Infected by our parents' old cynical beliefs
    Inherited like a genetical disease
    Somebody help me please man i wanna be released!

    I can't carry the weight i can't bear the burden
    My heritage's too heavy for my shoulders
    Can't burry the hate it bubble up to the surface
    And history repeat itself all over
    Can't carry the weight i can't bear the burden
    My heritage's too heavy for my shoulders
    I can't bury the hate it bubble up to the surface
    Now listen...

    Man i grew up in a little ass middle class town
    In the middle of nowhere, bitter and so scared
    And just like everybody else i was hiding it well
    Some couldn't keep it inside, well they were either in jail
    Or searching for life in the bottles and pills
    Some tried, then commited suicide when it failed
    Cus when the black cloud's filling your lungs
    You don't need to speak German to know the meaning of Angst
    The hate, the blame, the razor blades
    The sedatives are your only relatives
    We take the blame for the grave mistakes
    And we cannot live with our lonely heritage
    And you might feel like i ain't grateful thinkin I'm Hitchin
    Cus i supposedly got it all but my skin is like itchin
    And as the bread of sorrow fills my belly
    I chew and swallow, but still feel empty cus...

    As our children growin up in a white supremacy
    I ain't waiting for the backlash i fight the legacy
    Cus it seems like they got another wolf-owitz
    For wolf-enson and both of which
    Are from the wolf pack tuggin at our rear
    Together with hawks, eagle, dragon and the bear
    Slightly changed terminology but the same old Philosophy
    This time their atrocities in the name of democracy
    For the savages that haven't yet squired
    The wisdom then i stop - think, who am i in this System?
    It fucks me up when i'm thinkin it through
    Then i cheer up cus i'm thinkin of you
    And if you can love me, i can love me
    We can change, we can fight the ugly
    And you gave me these... i hear your words
    When i speak cus you ease and you share my burden

    And i can carry the weight when we share the burden
    Ain't nothing that's too heavy for my shoulders
    We can conquer the hate we bring it up to the surface
    And listen to what history done told us
    I can carry the weight when we share the burden
    Ain't nothing that's too heavy for my shoulders
    We can conquer the hate we bring it up to the surface
    And listen to what hstory done told us
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