Discussion in 'Hip-Hop Central' started by gotband4nothing, Feb 13, 2005.
Kris Kross and all the kiddies who wore their clothes backwards to be like them.
don't act like you didn't do it too
Just mentioning things that I haven't seen yet.
When marketing and promotion became more important than good music.
When people said the term "keep it real" and it really meant keep it real dumb.
Too many mutha fuckas rappin and not saying shit.
Ill rich being able to hold an opinion
howeva i do belieave anticon and to a lesser xtent some of the artists on def jux have taken the soul outta hip hop
fuck you el-p is revolutionary he invents new techniques and you diss def jux?listen to complex genius and not repetitive beats
the wackest thing to happen to hip-hop is:
eminem,50 cent,the source magazine after some time,p.diddy etc...
Just because something is conceptually deemed as 'new' doesn't mean it's good. Most concepts fall flat on their back. In the case of El-P, Funcrusher Plus was his mark on Hiphop, but even that album is so-so. Now, his production has too many things going on in it - similar to Jellyroll, to the point that it becomes a machine rather than something you can feel in your heart. As far as his emceeing skills, they leave a lot to be desired. There's no emotion to his music, nor rhythm and you can tell from the first word he utters. He certainly did contribute to a downward spiral, as now many of suburban caucasian High-School aged children worship him because they view him as the 'great white hope.' This inturn, actually makes them want to become an emcee, which further saturates an already over-saturated landscape and continues the trend.
man vanilla ice and mc hammer wasnt even wack....everybody copped they albums, unless u like 18 yrs old today
that is the dumbest shit you've said yet
onbly young cornballz who ride bandwagonz would say thats the wackest shit ever,,,.but me beingv like 9 yrs old at the time when them nggaz wuz the shit,,,,,back then, that wuz the shit, ice whole cd wuz hot, and mc hammer had maaaad hits....
no1 mentioned El-P (your previous quote) but yes i do mean him, but i admit hes not half as bad as some of the anticon rubbish and before you get all righteous on me and accuse me of listening to repetitive beats (like u know wot i listen 2 anyway, cunt)
50 cent= mostly garbage but theres been carbon copies before him and after why single out him?
P.Diddy= before his rhyming carrear he launched the label that bought Biggie Smalls into the mainstream
Eminem- one of the top 20 rappers who ever lived, who underground heads used 2 jock, shit its not his fault he sold a lot, Slim Shady LP is a classic probably hailed by those magazines who u quoted in the previous thead and i think even people who hated him now would agree
The Source- if we talking about 21st century source agreed
Anyway my real answer would be
Nerds like anticon turning there hand to this without any talent and bastardising Hip Hop with unlistenable wack shit, i mean there are no doubt nerds who can rap but a lotta shit is garbage and has no feel. Also fans from such groups who criticise pete Rock for being too simple, then claim Prince Paul is a master when all he used 2 do is find a popular sample and stick some drums underneath it.
Bling Bling era- jus coz of all the cheesy shit it spawned and all the trendys taking it on
People making opinions on Hip Hop without listening too groups with a social concious and then claiming rappers are talentless without ever taking into accordance breath control, the way the lyrics are structured etc
*COUGHS* And *CLEARS THROAT* and the winner iiiiis.................REGGEATONE Garbage sense day one , i remember hearin that shit to years ago blast in all the puerto ricans cars and thats florida which means it was around every corner it's bullshit they created the beat on playstation 2 and they were so lazy they just used it for every song 'till recently
i don't even take you seriously,you rate eminem,you don't know anything about melody or music,prince paul is a genius.He doesn't take a popular sample and stick some drums underneath it.His sampling is brilliant and real creative,he creates textures,he also know how to play instruments.His sampling is coming from tunes,melodies,beats,tv commercials,voices,dialogues,tv shows,movies,cuts,he is the most innovative producer ever(if it wasn't for him pete rock may have never existed as a producer,at least on this kind).He creates concepts and fun records(a prince among thieves-could easile,and many times he doesn't sample especially on his new work,and then you talk so bad about him?Listen to Psychoanalisis.
i knew that you meaned el-p,i guessed that,his work on cold vein is fantastic,see this is music that takes you a trip to outerspace with the complexicity and beauty,its a progressive record,hell,even elvis costello praised this album
fantastic damage is fantastic just like dr.dooom and dr.octagon
Haha, I was thinking this.
Others that came to mind:
Also, Pac's death, cos since then, everyone in the industry and most all rap fans have been all over his genitalia, and it's annoying as fuck.
Em ain't making classic shit anymore.
People hating him on here is mostly not about him being successful, but about him coming with weak shit like Encore.
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