What is your definition of "wack?"

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  1. Ignorant

    Ignorant Village Idiot

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    Like what has to be present or absent for a rapper, song or an album to be considered "wack" to you?


    rapper - horrible flow, corny lyrics, horrible voice, a clone
    song - horrible beat, horrible rappin', played out topic
    album - too long, too many skits, too many guests, horrible beats, no topic diversity
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  2. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    its's like the supreme court ruling on child porn.....i can't define it, but i know it when i hear it.......something like that
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  3. Ignorant

    Ignorant Village Idiot

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    Some shit is just consistent, though.

    I hate this whole "style over substance" movement that's runnin' rampant in commercial hip hop.

    Niggas is appreciating "swag" over lyrics... image over mic presence.

    It's why wack dudes like Rick Ross are sellin'.
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  4. vandalism

    vandalism the king

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    word. it's like child porn
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  5. thedream233

    thedream233 Thrillmatic

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    wack has too many definitions. its easier for me to define whats good hip hop.

    good means, you excel at SOMETHING, whether its your flow, lyrics, or choice of content... even better if you excel at more than one.

    so Wack for me would be not excelling at anything.


    wack: lil wayne, rick ross, young jeezy, Gucci Mane

    Great: Nas, Lupe Fiasco, J Cole, Kanye West
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  6. Ignorant

    Ignorant Village Idiot

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    I can accept this definition.

    But by your definition, though, it can be argued that the cats you listed as "wack" really DO excel at their craft, which is making good party/swag music.

    Gucci and Ross are completely wack to me all around and I can't listen to them at all.

    But I can stomach Wayne and Jeezy... Wayne is a lyricist with clever lines and dope phrasings... Jeezy has a cold ass voice and dope flow.
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  7. Murder Ink

    Murder Ink Jigsaw

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    I think you sum it all up rather well.
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  8. genocide_cutter

    genocide_cutter New Member

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    Someone who repeats the same shit over and over
    Too many skits on an album
    The swag movement
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  9. .Sparro.

    .Sparro. A Wraith

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    Uninteresting swag, unimaginative lyrics, simple rhyme schemes, boring beats.
    All of these ruin rappers/albums/songs for me.
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  10. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    but see there can be so many factors that decide this and not only are they different for every person, they are often instantaneous..........this is why my kiddy porn statement seems like da troof
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  11. .Sparro.

    .Sparro. A Wraith

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    How did they fail to define CP?
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  12. DP Banned?

    DP Banned? New Member

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    Hahaha, this was actually a supreme court ruling on hardcore pornography.

    Anyway, I agree. I consider a variety of rappers to be wack for different reasons. For instance, Canibus and Souljah Boy both bore the shit out of me and are wack, but for very different reasons and to varying degrees.
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  13. Free_Weezy

    Free_Weezy New Member

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    you obviously know nothing about hip-hop because Lil Wayne is a MUCH more skilled rapper than Kanye and it ain't close...........and Kanye himself would admit that (well actually, he has)

    Lil wayne doesn't excel at anything? Really?

    He excels at a bunch of things: Flow, Wordplay, Delivery, Presence, Character, Comedy, Aggression, etc.
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    Free_Weezy New Member

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    Rick Ross is far from wack.

    His impeccable beat selection and commanding delivery/presence on tracks alone makes him not wack. His music is extremely enjoyable and very easy to vibe to.

    And lyrically, he can really bring in here and there. See "Usual Suspects", "Free Mason", "I'm Not a Star", "Pledge Allegiance to the Swag", "Live Fast Die Young"
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  15. Tha Cunnysmythe

    Tha Cunnysmythe Unsavoury Negroid

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    Not CP in particular, pornography in general.
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  16. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    yea sorry i meant obscence to where it would be prosicutable.............
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  17. thedream233

    thedream233 Thrillmatic

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    believe it or not, I believe Lil Wayne and kanye are around the same level as far as rapping ability... (not a compliment for either)

    Kanye is okay as far as rapping ability.

    where Kanye excels is his content. He has the best content selection of any rapper I've ever seen. dude will talk about anything from relationships to political issues and always has something interesting to say.

    Kanye also excels at just making the quality of his music top notch. Dude is ALWAYS putting out powerful music. From Jesus Walks, to Bring Me Down, to Dark Fantasy.


    and Lil Wayne isnt clever at all. theres nothing clever about "youre softer than rosanne's son" or any of the bullshit half assed punchlines that nigga makes. You know why i dont think lil wayne is clever? cause i listen to real punchline rappers like big L.

    The fact is, you're just in love with lil wayne, and therefore you cant give a real reason as to why he's good. all you can say is shit like swag, character and all this other bullshit.
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  18. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    dream don't be stupid....lil wayne is very clever, and a very talented dude......so is kanye, you just don't like wayne....that's all
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  19. thedream233

    thedream233 Thrillmatic

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    fine asshole. list some clever lines.
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  20. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    dream you are under the impression that clever has to be like a vakill type of line or something.........there is far more to being clever and wittty than a cookie cutter punchline.......figure it out, i'm not typing shit out....and don't try and say cuz i can't think of any....i am to busy to take that time
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