the original plan against the philly shell is to attack the shoulders to cause fatique and slowdown during the later rounds. Nobody has been able to do this to floyd yet..... so what do you think roach would have to train manny to be able to beat floyd? his typical bum rush isn't going to do much his usuall speed advatage is lost in this fight. He could try the oscar plan and pretend to be busy in hopes of getting points for ring control, but that's a long shot. what do yall think manny could do to beat floyd?