Discussion in 'Hip-Hop Central' started by gotband4nothing, Feb 8, 2005.
keep listening to pop music dick asshole with the same beat looped over and over
thats bullshit dawg and you know it. you act like alot of underground/back packer/ real hiphop heads whateva the fuck they call themselves dont do the same shit. alot are just outkast nerds who just pretend to indentify and like the music because its out of the ordinary, its "real" hiphop, not mainstream etc whateva the reason is. just like alot of wannabes listen to gangsta music because its coo or they wanna be gangsta. there is no difference because for every underground head that actually just enjoys the music for the right reasons theres a nigg@ in the street who isnt jus tryna be coo and actually relates perfectly to what you call "ignorant and simplistic bullshit". who said you gotta relate to music to like it neway?i like eminem and i cant relate to a whiteboy from the trailor park who hates his mom etc
conceptual albums are not boring:
a prince among thieves
handsome boy modelling school
if this are boring records then....
and i cant believe some of the people you all named. NWA, 2 live crew, De La etc???mothafuckin legends who paved the way for alot of people but they had a negative effect? buncha Lames i swear...
he's not an emcee but I'm going with Jimmy Iovine
I fucking hate you
The South is the future
I'm not a fan of 2 live crew's music but they did fight for freedom of speech so I respect them there. I think that helped more than it hurt. I haven't seen a single good reason that a rapper actually hurt hip hop in general so far.. maybe there is one but I can't think of any at the moment. I can't believe people are saying De la soul and NWA though... those are the last artists I expected to be brought up.
So they've had a negative effect on hip-hop because their records ain't selling? What do sales have to do with it? There are plenty of artists that are "making major money" and make music "that you can bump in the ride" as you put it, that have had actually a negative impact on hip-hop. De La is anything but negative.
in fact i regret i said 2 live crew i enjoy their music and how can i have a problem with them if i like kool keith(who is full of porno).But i respect NWA but they are overrated.De la soul having a negative impact is just lucicrous.
I know the story: De La paved the blah blah way....
I used to like De la Soul bon(believe it or not)....potholes in my lawn yada yada
But when Luke Skywalker blew up, then PE came out, then Tupac showed up,
De La Soul got lost in the shuffle and hip hop became big business which is the most positive thing to EVER happen to a genre that merely started out on a street corner. It saved a lot of lives and made it possible for a lot of people to eat better.
So to me, De la's legacy of being flower child style pros etc.. is all good but if was to pick Game vs. De la Soul as the deciding factor of whether or not hip hop lives another 100 years, I'm picking the Game. And that's not being negative.
Making money = positive
Being broke= negative
i understand what are you trying to say,but why something to exist if its wack?just to exist?sorry but if you want something to exist just to exist and not because is good then...
by your means then kenny g is the superior jazz artist and miles davis and coltrane are a piece of shit,britney spears about pop,linkin park about there so-called metal etc.
basically your saying hip hop shouldnt be multiculturual....
correction the south is now and we need some more real emcees or this shits gonna die out quick
Master P put the N.O. on the map. I cannot believe the ignorance in this thread, just because a rapper isn't very god and isn't saying nice happy shit all the time dosen't mean they're negative. MC hammer had everyone rocking back inthe day.
I agree with you but it's the sad truth of American hustle. it's all about money over here and the skillful get overlooked more than the trash. trash sells in America..and unfortunately Hip hop is trash music and has been for the last 10 years.
and Kenny G did indeed help Jazz get more listeners and bring in more money. I'm sure all Jazz artists appreciate him to the fullest right about now.
Actually I think this is a pretty good list barring Eminem even with Encore, Master P and Vanilla Ice
Oh yea and lets not forget Benzino though fuck negative effects, that man has had NO effect on the industry much as he might like to think he has
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