What are you non-believers trying to prove?

Discussion in 'The Sanctuary' started by Hope., Jul 30, 2013.

  1. Geedorah

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    I asked a question too so why are you acting like a troll?
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  2. Hope.

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    Kid, go sit in the corner...

    You have NO idea what you are talking about.
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  3. M-theory

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  4. Geedorah

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  5. Hope.

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    That link just described what geedorah is attempting to do and failing at horribly.

    My question was general, not once did I try to PUSH anything on anyone.
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  6. Geedorah

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    Actually no, you didnt answer my questions.
    2. asking questions and ignoring the answers.

    The only answer you gave me is cmon son and smh.
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  7. M-theory

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    Just because you're doing it wrong doesn't mean you aren't doing it. You keep coming back to the idea that you are just asking questions.
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  8. Hope.

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    What else am I doing?
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  9. M-theory

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    I'm not 100% sure that you're doing anything, at all.
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  10. Hope.

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    So don't tell me I'm doing anything at all if you not 100%. That's called assuming, and I'm sure you know what that means since it seems you have links to everything else that you feel supports your case.
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  11. Hope.

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    I'm not going to keep going back and forth though.

    Most of the questions Gee asked he already knows the answer too...

    No sense in answering them, just like its no sense in him asking.

    But, everyone here knows this question is universal on all parts.
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  12. M-theory

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    I'm not assuming anything just because I posted a link. And how are you supposed to have a problem with not being 100%? You clearly aren't 100% about the existance of God.
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  13. Hope.

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    You're right. But, I'm 100% in what I BELIEVE. that's all I'm saying. Just like A lot of people are for what they truly believe for themselves. my belief is not based on popularity, its based on what I get from it personally. All I was saying was nobody should criticize anyone for what path they choose, no matter what the religious choice is/ if they believe in religion at all.
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  14. Sir Bustalot

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    i dont think you did, and i dont think most of us think you did.

    it was the way you worded it thats all.
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  15. Hope.

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    Well, if I worded it wrong for you all

    That was my mistake.

    When I said non-believers from the point I was trying to make, it was on all accounts.
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  16. Saru Beats

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    Because monotheistic religion is immoral, unfounded, archaic, toxic, and a disgrace to human society.

    By being a believer of any of the monotheistic religions, people are already taking a stance against non-believers. You act as if religious people are all sitting around minding their own business and getting bullied when that is absolutely not the case and religion is, by it's own existence, against non-believers.
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  17. Saru Beats

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    And it is not ONLY monotheistic religion, but those are some of the most openly aggressive and condemning (and popular).
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  18. Hope.

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    I can agree to the aggression

    Pretty much why I asked this question in the first place...

    But what do you think really bought about the aggression in the believers/non-believers?

    Now a day's everybody is trying to complicate the next religion

    So the other doesn't position itself above it, imo
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  19. Saru Beats

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    Can you rephrase your question?

    What brought about the aggression? The religion did. The belief in the religion brought about the aggression. I think the social constructs that helped perpetuate religion for a long while (criminal charges (in some countries), negative public image, social outcasting etc.) kept many people from sharing their ideas against religion openly even if they did hold them true to themselves. Recently people are more open with how they can approach and share their beliefs so maybe the 'aggression' seems a bit more rampant. Is that what you were getting at?
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  20. Hope.

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    Yes, that's exactly what I was getting it.

    And that's why for me, I don't let the religion guide me alone...

    But yet, what I get from my religion for myself...

    And in gaining my own sense of understanding for what I believe, I feel as though everyone can, which leads me too believe it is no reason for me to try and PUSH anything on anyone, especially when I know, it's up to them what they choose to do in the first place you know? so to me, it holds no weight, and i'd be arguing with myself because it's only myself that chooses to believe for the reasons I choose to believe in what I believe in... and in doing so, I feel it insignificant to argue with others on why they feel what they feel towards religion, because believe it or not, most relationships and not even just with religion, but in general are much more sacred when it's personal, it's something that you have/know for yourself that not many can touch or just take away just like that.
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