WEST: 3. Vigil and Clauz -VS- 10. Effect and Nahlidge

Discussion in 'RSTL Grudge Matches and Tournaments' started by DiC GeTs GuLLy, Aug 21, 2006.

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  1. DiC GeTs GuLLy

    DiC GeTs GuLLy Hello

    Feb 26, 2005

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    TOPICS: http://board.rapmusic.com/showthread.php?t=1004335
  2. Vigil

    Vigil Im infinite consciousness

    Aug 16, 2005

    good luck
  3. MeNTiLL PoET

    MeNTiLL PoET Nahlidge

    Dec 2, 2002
  4. Effect.

    Effect. New Member

    Nov 14, 2004
    in good looks nah.
  5. MeNTiLL PoET

    MeNTiLL PoET Nahlidge

    Dec 2, 2002
    To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear life are already three parts dead.
    Bertrand Russell

    An Apple Never Falls Too Far From The Tree

    Brought up on Nintendo and T.V. dinners, cause livin` was tight
    Parents workin` different shifts, like passin` ships in the night
    Visions of white America dreams, often buried and threw
    On a dinner table stacked with bills, cause it barely gets used
    Unfairly accused, of bein` the cause of a broken house hold
    He hides himself behind a smile, escapin` through that mouse hole
    That he often calls home, it`s where he goes to be alone
    To get away from the world, a place that he can call his own
    Wishin` life was a roll of dice, so he could gamble it right
    But drunken fights is the closest he got to family nights
    And Sunday dinners, were more like KFC and a movie
    Grantin` him a happy home, like he`d seen in the movies
    So he`d dream it, but truely, hardships had scarred the kid
    But nothin` could be worse, than mom and dad`s arguments
    Sometimes he`d ask why they fought, they said he was the reason
    And as the hatred grew stronger, he started to believe them

    So everyday he took longer, to find his way back home
    Wonderin` if they`d even notice if one day he was gone
    Most of his days spent in his room, in the dark with a stereo
    Blastin`, wishin` lucky charms were more than a box of cereal
    Still he grows older, thinkin` that this is what love is
    Seen `em punch, kick and yell, but barely knows what a hug is
    Every night the fights grew a little worse than the last one
    Til` one night sumthin` happened, this fight would be the last one
    His dad comes home from the bar, car`s in the driveway smashed up
    Yellin` bitch where the fuck are you?, slammed the door wake your ass up
    I`m tired of your bullshit, he yells as he aims at her with a full clip
    Little does he know, the safety`s off the trigger when he pulls it
    Clueless, he drops the gun, unaware of what he`s done
    A murderer, but still a father in the eyes of his son
    Holdin` his wife, the boy thinks, Mom, it`s the first time I seen `em hug you
    Watchin` his dad pick the gun back up as he whispered I love you


    Now he`s growin` up afraid to love, torn, with a part of denial
    Becomin` a grown man, still livin` with the heart of a child
    More like the heart of his child, hood, and who`s to blame
    But his experience as a young boy, and not wantin` the same
    Fate as his parents, shallow, but the depth is apparent
    A foster child happy on the surface, lackin` the depth of a parent
    Stoppin` himself from witnessin` the passion of when toungues touch
    20 sumthin` odd years old, only now experiencin` his own young love

    My worries in-depth, buried deep within my chest, nested under skin
    The cell formed by my rib-cage doesn’t prohibit the happenings within
    Visions of sin, I skim through existence, with a resistance to float
    Weighted by every worry, my 3rd person and soul harbor my boat
    With remote agitation, my devoted patience to ignore my past runs cold
    Scolded from coal, why not add to the fire instead of cindering old
    My soul is departed, a self labeled retarded corpse with a pulse
    Karma will come, like farther like son joining a murderous cult
    Further result, I walk bewildered, chilled with a gusted breeze
    Each spine freezing current, excites me in resemblance of my mothers scream
    Extreme scenes of violence spiral with a persistence so twisted
    I ram fingers down my throat being sick, now I must pick my victim

    To christen my insanity, single handedly I clutch a braid of her hair
    Hugging, juggling the vomit from my mouth, resisting the lords prayer
    I share my nightmare of thoughts that ought to send her above
    Catching droplets of blood on my tongue, I taste what it is to be loved
    Shoving the jaded blade way beyond as I fondle her carcass
    With one burst of passion, I fashion a pierce in my skin of darkness
    Heartless, but from what I was shown, this is what a heart is
    Expressin` my love to her, the only way I know, a torn apart kid
    Stop, he never stopped, so why should I? I thought you loved me
    Closed my eyes, reminded of my mother, the way that she touched me
    With her last breath she cried for help, with a lifeless look on her face
    Now I`m a grown man, relivin` the same past that I tried to erase
  6. Vigil

    Vigil Im infinite consciousness

    Aug 16, 2005
    If A is success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.
    Albert Einstein

    Clawz goes first, thrid and fifth. I go second, fourth and sixth

    The Money & The Message

    "The medium is the message"

    Three men can keep a secret if two are dead
    Said the One Hundred dollar bills talking head
    Invest in stock instead, stalking funds to hedge
    In bed with execs following footsteps Enron treads
    With none left breathless secrets rise into heads
    The truth is money talks as Honest Abe lies dead
    A momument left in his stead, as monetary gains ground
    Compounded by annual interest in the portrait he mounds
    Debt surrounds muff-divers as loan sharks declare gain
    Takes two to Tango, & Cash bailed on Jefferson airplane

    I am the anthem of truth, I'll never be held for ransom,
    I've never be vanished I'll forever stand on this planet
    but I am phantom abandoned, forsaken and banished
    I've been branded, mis-managed and disbanded
    plugged from the cameras for being frank and candid.
    I made a flash but that just made the master a grand
    I get passed through the stands, bashed and then canned
    while they deal cash with laws that gets past by those fast with their hands.
    I didn't join the ranks cause I'm known to disappoint banks
    and make leeches speechless so they shoot me dead at point-blank.

    Washington said Better to be alone than in bad company
    Kenneth Lay agreed as a Grand Jury convicted of felony
    Evicted is Melanie, single mother tryna hold two jobs
    While Steve Jobs feeds off the Apple adam & eve robbed
    As we conjugate verb tenses into verbose intentions
    Contentious credit holders divinely compose intervention
    End of the road prevention exiting onto the American Express
    Alternate expression regresses, weakened by blind acquiesce
    As our mind's regress and the Jackson 5 replace Andrew
    And drew praise from critics, admit it:
    The tax base becomes you.

    These days we are succumb to
    pirates of the corporation, the curse of greed
    their merchants with serpent nerves who are never too hurt to bleed
    they don't serve the earth's needs or ever reserve a seat
    they greet the birds they meet by feeding them dirt to eat
    what's worst is these creeps prefer to cheat but in this world their beat
    and they hold out till the last penny but their always the first to plead.
    And they'll never quench their thirst cause money hanging is dry cash
    they'll never have a deep impact, their influence will make a light splash
    cause success is beyond measure and its true they have an asunder of pleasures
    but these dead men can't get stuff of their chest cuz its buried under their treasures

    It's Aaron Burr not Spelling toppin news handlings
    Thank SNL for the way we choose in droppin Hamiltons
    As capitalist ways invade like Ulysses S. Grant's brigade
    Ignorant of Hamilton's crusade against the slavery trade
    Fast Forward
    Rename these slaves into behaving, call them minimum wage
    Waging minimalist battles like cattle for ad infinitum decades
    Union dues slip through the cracks getting crews made
    The cruise’s maiden voyage set sail and you’re stuck in sales
    Evil triumphs when good men to do nothing…
    Who the fuck you think prevailed?

    I put myself in the bottle unaware I would be hard to go down
    cause I make people blunt but there isn't enough of me to go round.
    I give lip service a market, like the pastor who has alot to say
    and I can make the most famous comedian stand up and walk away
    I put dogs in their place like tom delay who can't afford to go beyond
    and its true these men are a man of their word but their word is bond.
    I live on the far side of reality, extending your fifth senses
    and I'll make you free so money can't buy your expenses.
    I'm the test that won't fail you, I have past lives in the future tense
    and soon there's going to be a short cange me and you can spent.
  7. Pent uP

    Pent uP I'd Like to Fight Ten Men

    Feb 17, 2001
  8. Insanevillian

    Insanevillian STILL in CHARGE

    Aug 19, 2000

    [hide]this is a tough one, i almost dont wanna vote cuz this is very close...

    effect and nahlidge have a very good piece about how sometimes your past comes to haunt u, almost in the same refrain of my piece this week... however it was very predictable only due to what the title was, so it made me realize what the boy was going to do in the very beginning of the second piece, cuz if the apple doesnt fall far from the tree, then that is how it was gonna happen...

    vigil and clauscame blastin with quoteables and i love anti government shit, i almost wanted to add to the collab myself... but it was really good and made me think, just not too gripping all the way through...

    u see, at the beginning of mentill ill's verse it kept me captivated, it made me really want to read cuz of the writers voice... on the second hand the second verse after bang had me going until i realized what was gonna happen then it became kind of predictable,,,

    claus and vigil wasnt predictable, but not that gripping... meaning it wasnt as suspenseful...

    so this is how i broke it down...

    writers voice- tie

    suspenseful- e and n

    flow- claus and vigil

    multis- claus and vigil

    entertainment- both

    so this just comes down to the tuned out writing skills and claus and vigil take this by a hair...

  9. Pent uP

    Pent uP I'd Like to Fight Ten Men

    Feb 17, 2001
    [hide]effect and nahlidge -- you guys held similar flow and shit so this was nice on the collaberative edge, however story wise I wasn't feelin it to much
    first of all the shooting was more than enough foreshadowing of what was going to happen, the story was pretty cliche (imo) and I could fortell the emotions and events before they happened. Not to knock you, you guys had some ill rhymes and lines in there but they werent HEAVY hitters, and knowing how many one liners vigil throws this could be a hot match. you guys should def join the league, but as for right now, you guys have dope collaberative skill

    Vig/Clausen -- omfg@the first verse, that shit was fucking wordplay rich, I LOVED it. absolutely line to line. also
    "Rename these slaves into behaving, call them minimum wage
    Waging minimalist battles like cattle for ad infinitum decades" - couplet of the match.
    overall a VERY nice approach to the topic. I loved all the wordplay about the dead presidents, and the other pop-history refrences. The flow of this was very nice, some stretched lines, but overall something I enjoyed reading. A topical with alot of wit and flare. im pretty exhausted from reading verses so

    vote vigil/claus for a better collbarative topical that left me with a feeling that said 'entertained'[/hide]
  10. Annihilation

    Annihilation CLAUS HOUSE

    Mar 17, 2003
    Voted on every match available.

    And DIC, to respond to ure comment, I had the 1st, 3rd and 5th stanza's, and i used the people on the 1,2,5,10,20,50 and 100 dollar bills:

    1=George Washington
    2=Thomas Jefferson
    5=Abraham Lincoln
    10=Andrew Hamilton (killed in a duel with Aaron Burr)
    20=Andrew Jackson
    50=Ulysses S. Grant (led army against Confederates)
    100=Benjamin Franklin

    The first line of our verse is Ben Franklin's famous line, Hamilton is famous in the SNL 'Chronic-cles of Narnia' rap ("You could call us Aaron Burr the way we're droppin Hamiltons), Aaron Spelling, father of Tori Spelling, world's most famous television producer who recently died and is all over the news, while Hamilton is only known due to the rap and dying to Aaron Burr (who was Vice President at the time) and forgotten are his contributions like pioneering the fight in abolishing slavery.

    I actually didn't know any of this until I had to research for this verse - thank god for Wikipedia!!
  11. DiC GeTs GuLLy

    DiC GeTs GuLLy Hello

    Feb 26, 2005
    The Mentill Poet crew, don't know who wrote what because it wasn't indicated in your narration, but I can kinda tell where the narration changes and the flow gets different. The opening scene was written nicely, flow was on point and it seemed like a cool start of a life lived in poverty.... it got real dark and weird later as the father figure gets affectionate over killing someone and that gets transfered to the son in some crazy pyscho genetic type shit. Showing love through killing his mother, can't fathom it, but it was written pretty cool. Flow got worst in the later parts, but the read was definately interesting and kept my interest as I tried to figure out what was happeneing..... could of been a bit more direct with some more exciting details of being a psycho I guess, but nicely done for the subject matter used. Nice character development in the narration. You both should sign into the league.

    Vigil and Claus, you should try putting one in bold and one not to differnciate between the two of you cuz I really wasn't gonna be coutning stanzas to follow who did what. Your topical choice was very mature and well narrated, but extremely boring. There was a lot I liked about it, but I'm not familiar with some of the names used although they sounded familiar, I'm not a historian and haven't read the authors you used as metaphors in several years or not at all. Things like that just distanced me further from the content, but I was able to follow the bulk of it and it kept an intelligent narration, which was kinda witty and well voiced. Really hard choice here

    Vote claus and vigil....barely

  12. SteveThaGreat

    SteveThaGreat Zeus

    Aug 16, 2006

    damn... this was a close battle.

    mental poet--- the piece was nice... flow was on point, everything was well done. no complaints here. it was solid in it's entirety.

    vigil--- likewise the flow was crisp, the direction of the piece was clear and illustrated masterfully, i actually enjoyed reading this piece as opposed to some of the shit i've been laboring over tonight... but anyway,

    to me this was a battle with 2 evenly matched pieces competing, but what took it for me was vigil and anni's freshness. mental poet was very well done but i've never seen a piece with the concept that vigil and clause used executed with that type of efficiency. and i actually work at a bank so i could relate to a lot of the segments maybe more than some others... it's not that mental's piece was cliche it's just that i see a lot of topicals go in that kind of direction.

    vote=vigil and clawz

  13. Shrug

    Shrug Street Poet

    Jan 31, 2005
    [hide]holy hell this is close. Vigil and Clauz your first verse sold it tho. amazing. fuck it the whole piece. throwing all the presidents of bills in, your apparent knowledge of the way you wanted to display the topic. Major props for the amount of work you two must have thrown in this. Effect and Nahlidge it seemed that you were forcing your rhyme scheme a bit. it was so complex and it would have been prolific if you could keep it without sacrificing solidity in your story and the over all flow of your topic and going on a few confusing tangents. Vigil and Clauz your idea and twist off the topic was dope. solid beginning, middle and end. you two did as well confuse me in two spots a bit but all I needed to do was read it once over and it was understandable and ill.

    Vote. Vigil and Clauz[/hide]
  14. UFO the Phoenix


    Aug 10, 1999
    nice battle.....

    Vote: Vigi and Clau

    Poet crew you guys didnt really bring anything new to the table in my opinion and some of your lines was maaaad corny....I'm talking on some 4th grade level ish...

    So everyday he took longer, to find his way back home
    Wonderin` if they`d even notice if one day he was gone
    Most of his days spent in his room, in the dark with a stereo
    Blastin`, wishin` lucky charms were more than a box of cereal


    Vigi on the other hand came with something more indepth as far as vocab goes....they always rocked their topic well together.....flow on point.....wordplay on point.....just overall more full circle
  15. Pent uP

    Pent uP I'd Like to Fight Ten Men

    Feb 17, 2001
    Vigil and Clause advance
    Effect and Nahlidge I would like to see you guys in the RSTL
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