basically im saying....we need to start taking each other seriously...its alot of cats here who are trying to go the extra mile to make some quality music...but the 1st people to discredit the legitimacy of these RM members as an artist are other RM members.. we need to start networking..promoting each other....recommending each other...throwing each other names in with other artists if we actually feel that cats here are on a comparable level...which i think is the case. The only difference between RM.com and the industry, is the resources and money. We need to pool resources and bring some credibility to our music instead of constantly trying to be like "___'s dope, but ___ is doper than him!" Its tons of dope cats...whats sad is, its too many dope cats who dont seem to believe that they can do anything serious because they cant even get support around here, where people know of their talents. even Jeff seems to share a negative attitude about the capabilities of RM artists to accomplish something serious, and i can see why.. childishness and selfishness dominates the forums here. I was just talking on the phone yesterday to Selph X Playned about some business things, and i was kinda ranting...cause its frustrating when we have so many people here with talent, so many people that can reach so many other people. But we are like crabs in a barrell...pulling each other down trying to get above the rest. We need to be building a ladder in this motherfucker. im willing to bet this thread will get a response of alot of negativity...i just think its time to change the general attitude around here and start bonding more as artists and shit for the benefit of everyone serious about their music.