[Video] Beatmaking/Production Tutorial: Sidechain Compression by Soleternity

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  1. Eternity

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    [youtube]bcM03uSpRBU[/youtube]
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  2. MFB

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    well done sir
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  3. k.s.

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    a lot of times you said ''that's gonna be another video''.

    you better really come thru with those videos bro.

    good shit tho
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    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    you the man sol........
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  5. Eternity

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    Thank you for the feedback.

    If anyone has suggestions for the next video, let me know.
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  6. Thrizzy

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    My question is where to draw the line on sidechaining?

    I see the utility, but what's to really stop somebody from sidechaining every element of a song into another?

    Also did you apply the same compressor to the instruments you did sidechain?

    Or did you make an individual compressor for each, with different settings?
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  7. Eternity

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    I've got several beats where I sidechained everything except for the bassline and the snare. That means I sidechained the hi hat, the cymbals, all of the instruments; everything. Sometimes I create 5-6 different busses dedicated just to sidechaining if i start running too many instruments on the same sidechain bus and it doesn't sound good.

    Sometimes thats the sound you want to accomplish so you go for it.

    A good use of this is when you want original compositions to sound sampled. It helps to hide whether an instrument is synth or analog. So I can add instruments to a sampled beat and make it sound like they were in the original sample.
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    More question while you're here:

    Why did you have the samples double?

    Just to thicken it?

    And were they playing in unison, or offset?
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  9. Eternity

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    The samples themselves are doubled because they are acting as separate instruments. I have the first layer of the sample which is real choppy and doing one melody. Then I took a sample from a different part of the original song and chopped it up to be like a countermelody to the original sample and have them play together.
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  10. ral4ever1985

    ral4ever1985 CHETA

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    im aware of this but this is great info for ppl that dont know about it. nice to see you do some tuts
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  11. Thrizzy

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    This is all very interesting to me.

    And not only for that pumping effect but from what I gather it's pretty important to gluing things together and tightening it up.

    I've been trying to learn all the finer points of compression, especially in terms of dealing with samples.

    So when you side chain all these instruments, are you sidechaning one thing into another, and then those into another etc..?

    Or if not how exactly do you group them if at all?

    Also I have a song right now that I'm working on which I made a 8 bar loop of just the bass line.

    Maybe I'm tweaking but I kind of feel like in the process of chopping it, the sample kind of loses a little volume, so I need to compress it.

    Do I compress it and then throw a sidechain on that? Or can the sidechain also function as a limiter at the same time?

    Also where does compression come into play? Like EQ before, or after etc..

    Between the process of selecting a sample to work with to actually becoming a song where is compression used on that sample?
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  13. *Deuce Wilde*

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    Mind = blown, gonna try messing around with this now, if I get the hang of it I have a feeling this will be my new favorite toy
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  14. veral conflict

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    good tut sol.

    some other general side-chain tips:
    when compressing your drum bus, you can filter out what is being compressed by side-chaining a filter to isolate or focus on what is being compressed--this helps preserve the energy of the kick and toms.

    also mess around with side-chaining gates, you can attach crazy loops that are muted to give pads, synths, or anyhting rhythm.
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  15. *Deuce Wilde*

    *Deuce Wilde* aka stfu dave

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    Is this plugin for 32 bit? Keeps freezing my FL on 64bit windows 7
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  16. F Major

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    Im glad to see you doing tutorials man, your sound quality and production has always been top notch and im sure theres a ton of other knowledge you have to share as well. Keep up the good work my dude!
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  17. nwo504

    nwo504 Rawtunez

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    good tut hopefully more to come.
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  18. rav3745

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    Thanks for this, this was useful
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