ummm Atheists?

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  1. Radium

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    i hear this commonly and yet atheists don't get very far in a discourse about the nature of god, soul, or form...

    they get so far as to say "thats impossible/dumb I'm too smart to have to lower myself to think of such dumb things"

    its not like they are very well-read on the subject anyway. thats probably why they cant get very in-depth when trying to speculate on such things. basically the atheist will say "i dont believe in god" and then stop there

    as though thats all there is to it

    you might be different but do you not see this also in many atheists?
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    i dont understand? some of the greatest minds in human history believed in god. are you saying you're smarter than they are?
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    i know enough to not call them dumb which supposing you would actually take the effort to explore their works you would also see...
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    i'm not even talking about religion. speculating on the nature of god is not contingent upon organized religions

    you atheists are so good at attacking organized religions but never have the guts to challenge spinoza or leibniz

    thats hilarious
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    what? you're all over the place right now
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    i notice a certain arrogance in most atheists that i dislike, i honestly don't spend enough time debating religion or god with them but anytime i do read their debates they usually focus on proving every aspect of religion wrong, which i find annoying..

    i will sometimes hold off from religious arguments once someone brings god into the picture because it always turns into a giant pissing contest and nobody ever changes their minds. i try to talk to people i know well who are religious sometimes about god or their beliefs but i admittedly can never really seem to take it all that serious.. i can appreciate a good religious story but i just can't believe that it actually happened without any inclination from outside sources.

    for example: my whole fam is religious, and i was just visiting my mom in nc like 2 days ago and she was telling me how the dogwood tree was used to build the cross for the crucifixion of jesus, and at the time it was a sturdy and robust tree but jesus could tell that it objected to it's use in the crucifixion of the son of god. so he blessed it by saying that from now on it wont grow big enough to be put to such use, instead it will be scrawny but beautiful with flowers depicting the cross and red seeds depicting his blood or something like that. and it was a nice story and all but, it just sounds like a fairy tale to me. how am i supposed to know whether this shit actually happened or someone just made it up?

    and for the record im no 'proud atheist'... if anything im a closet atheist. if i told my mom i was atheist she'd just get all depressed and tell me she wishes she brought me to church more when i was little. she does that any time i show any lack of religious faith.
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    can't say i've read it in it's entirety. i've taken bible study courses but seeing that i'm an atheist and all.. reading the entire bible front to back has never been a huge priority of mine.

    also, what are you talking about?
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    i think organized religion is more of a commentary on the human nature than anything. there are interesting concepts to consider though. i think understanding religion lends greatly to understanding human beings and what makes them

    but i share your reluctance in regards to the mythos "fairy tales" of religion though

    however speculations on the nature of god/immaterial things isn't constricted just to religions. for example there have been numerous philosophers to speculate on the nature of god independently from religion

    these works hold more worth i think as they are less about organizing large groups of people and more about trying to deduce rationally the nature of god ie god's characteristics and intents (or lack thereof)

    however most atheists have never actually read those works. as such they hinder themselves intellectually.
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    i took the class cause it was one of the last electives left when i signed up and it seemed easy. and which stereotype are you even talking about?
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    dont pay attention to knowledge he is being pulled in a thousand different directions inside his own mind right now
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