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  1. Jay Bee

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  2. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    never seen or heard of such images.

    and even if i did, i'd hate the image becuase the prophet disliked him being drawn.

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    i understand why muslims don't like images of muhammad: he didn't want to be turned into an idol.

    but don't you think it's best to let god punish those who you think have broken his rules rather than resort to violence and rioting over a cartoon?

    or more precisely: why should non-muslims adhere to islamic rules in the first place? adherence to those rules is the main distinction between those two groups (other than beliefs) and should be used as a badge of honor for muslims rather than a tool to incite violence.
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    this floooooored me!!


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    Thank you for explaining why the followers of Islam don't like images of Muhammad. That's the info I was looking for.
    Nu, I didn't mean to come at you like that. My bad.
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  6. patrown

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    wasn't intended for you. that was meant for Nu. i was just being a dick really, while asking for information :shifty:. someone else explained it later.
    but props on the artist side of you overriding the religious hostility.
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  7. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    i just can't stand it when people just overlook the fact they've dissed our prophet.

    yeah, it's fucking stupid to re-act with violence and burn down cinemas (really?).

    but to overlook the fact that they've dissed our prophet is being blind.

    they shouldn't need to adhere to islamic rules, but atleast respect them?

    what do they gain from drawing images of prophet muhammad?

    nothing, except a few angry fucking bearded cunts ready to kill.

    all hood man.

    i can't even remember what you said.

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  8. reggie jax

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    what would be the difference between adhering to them and respecting them in this case? is there any way to respect the rule while breaking it?
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  9. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    yes, drawing the prophet in the light of himself.

    and not a comic book with a fucking bomb in his turban.

    that's the difference, persian artists did it for years, respectful art.

    edit ; but what i ask is - what do you gain from drawing him?

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  10. reggie jax

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    oh, so you're not necessarily mad if someone draws him, just if they mock him?

    in regard to your question: what did the persian artists gain? or what did the creators of south park gain when they depicted him as a member of the 'super friends league'? there can be many reasons to draw someone. but even if there's no other reason than to illicit a response or make a statement against islam, don't you just prove their point by flying into a predictable rage over it?
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  11. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    no, it won't make me mad if somebody drew him.

    there's extensive literature on what the prophet actually looked like.

    if i wanted to know about his appearance i can just read that literature.

    but i don't see why i should do that considering the prophet asked us not to.

    even the persian artists that did, used to cover his face with a veil though.

    that's my question though, what do people gain out of it?

    flying into a predictable rage? no pun intended, i hope lol.

    i was as appalled by the violent riots after the cartoons, as the drawings.

    so it's okay to piss people off if you know how they're going to react? you will push it forward just to see what happens? what do you gain out of that? to see them people pissed off? what do you gain out of disrespecting other person's religious beliefs? seriously.

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  12. reggie jax

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    my point was that it's not necessary to 'gain' anything. you have the freedom to express yourself, and if we only extended that to non-offensive forms of expression then such a freedom becomes utterly meaningless.

    i'm not saying that such an act isn't a petty thing to do. but yes, it's ok to draw anything you want to draw. and it's ok for people to get offended at what you draw, and to express such offense. it's not ok for their offense to go beyond words and transcend into violence. before it seemed like you were suggesting otherwise, but now it seems like i was mistaken and you were not being serious. so i'm not sure there's anything left here that we truly disagree about.
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