there will be no prophet after muhammad ...

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  1. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    ... period, full stop.

    people have tried but got mocked to oblivion.

    there will come imam mehdi, but he's far from a prophet/messenger.

    i don't know why jews/christian don't accept muhammad, he adds to the same beliefs.

    and how can you not see that he is the final prophet, who has come after him?

    serious question though, are you guys still waiting for the last messenger?

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  2. Look im Gangsta

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    I'm holding out for the Spaghetti Monster.
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    the only serious contender I can think of since Muhammad is Baha'ullah, the founder of the Bahai Faith.
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  4. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    trolling or no trolling, they have a fucking church?

    hahaha, holy fuck.

    read up on this bloke.

    six million followers in a century?

    it's a sect from a sect (shia't), so we never really took him seriously.

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  5. TheBigPayback

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    Blasphemy
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  6. x calibur

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    they're far from a major religion, but they do have a presence. I've read that the Muslims consider them an apostasy.

    the only other I can come up with is Guru Nanak Dev, founder of Sikhism, which apparently has ~25 million followers
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  7. UnbrokeN

    UnbrokeN Well-Known Member

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    i agree with you. the mahdi will be one that is even above any human prohet, because the prohet was just a medium to spread a message of truth(s) for each age and time, whereas the mahdi will be purified bliss, love and wisdom and he will instantly turn things around.

    nu maan u know that many muslims actually believe Isa (jewsus) to have been the messiah? i like surah 19 a lot. for me there is no diffrence between islam, judaim and christianity in its core. its just humans that have strayed from the path that made an abomiantion out of each.

    some say he is already or has been among us, but remaining in the shadows until the time is right. some say it is maitrya, st. germain..there are many names that could describe the same thing, so let sjust leave it at that.
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  8. TheBigPayback

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    Actually. It will be a apperation of mary. Cus every major religion has some kind of significant mother and son combo. So that would at least unite muslims, catholics, hindus, etc
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  9. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    yeah, he was rightfully imprisoned.

    you can't fuck around like that.

    i wouldn't even consider that guru to be another prophet.

    a wise man? fuck yeah, he pretty much combined hinduism and islam into one.

    but very very far from a prophet/messenger.

    i don't know if he'll be "above" the prophets though.

    no, we believe that isa ibn maryam is the messiah, he is coming back.

    pretty much.

    when the muslims fleed mecca from persecution, they quoted this surah to the abyssinian king who was a christian man, who ended up giving all the muslims refuge under his ruling, a just king indeed.

    allah u alim.

    god is the one with all knowledge.

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  10. UnbrokeN

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    why cant non muslism accept muhammad peace be upon him for that which he was, someone blessed with words of truth, the last of the great lineage of prophets that received these truths directly.
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  11. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    they don't even have to look at the prophet-hood he's claiming.

    just look upon the teachings and lessons he laid out for the world to learn.

    but the media is a biatch, only concentrating on the so called "negatives" of the man.

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  12. x calibur

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    the bahai seem pretty reasonable to me. they emphasize religious syncretism and pluralism. But naturally you'd have a different perspective on it.


    I'm not to clear on this, but apparently there was a succession of 10 gurus, and their scripture is considered the 11th. so there's some sort of divinity assigned to them that was passed down, maybe like the dalai lamas, but I'd have to do more research. It doesn't seem like he/they could be properly called a messenger.

    speaking of which, apparently the first dalai lama came around in the 1400's.
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  13. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    true, considering our shihaada translates to:

    there is no god (deity worthy of worship) except for Allah.
    and muhammad is the final messenger of god.


    you enter or leave islam depending on whether you say this or don't.

    the bahai obviously didn't, hence blaspheme.

    yeah?

    but i don't think any of the lama's claimed prophethood.

    isn't it just a status within buddhism? like a priest/sheikh/rabbi?

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  14. x calibur

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    yes, but the dalai lama in particular is the spiritual leader. the 14 dalai lamas in history are considered to be a series of reincarnations. It might be a stretch to say that he's a prophet/messenger, though.

    I'm not arguing, rather I'm trying to come up with all the respectable contenders since Muhammad. there haven't been a lot.
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  15. UnbrokeN

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    i believe one should seek knowledge everywhere it can be found, prety sure the qu ran mentions htis somewhere, that you should always seek truths.

    in that sense, iwould never limit myself to just one book, *****ample the Torah (old testament), the qu ran, or the NT..

    there is so much more out there, because written words alone are dead.
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  16. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    very true, the first word revealed was an order to "read" - iqrah.

    i've read the bible, and have taken alot of good out of it

    don't throw the baby out with the water.

    i'm glad you're trying to find somebody.

    because as you said, apart from bahai, nobody has come close.

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    And in those days I will pour out my spirit on all flesh,
    And your young men will see visions, and old men will dream dreams
    your sons and daughters will prophecy


    I suspect u mean muslim prophets tho.
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  18. Alias3000

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    Muhammed was a prophet? since when?

    not a damn thing he's prophesized has come true. post something. prove it.
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  19. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    lol, you truly are an ignorant brother.

    - the conquest of mekkah.
    - triumph of byzantines over the persians.
    - many many signs of the last day.
    - the mongol invasion.
    - the forms of government after his death (pretty interesting, and true).
    - the conquest of cyprus.
    - the conquest of istanbul.

    let's just have a look at some of the things that signify the last days.

    should i continue?

    roughly 160 prophecies were fulfilled during his lifetime alone.

    and speaking of prophecies, doesn't your own scripture talk about muhammad?

    pretty sure the "spirit of truth" is referring to gabriel who narrated to muhammad.

    give it up bruh, you're trolling efforts have no effect on me.

    read "signs of last day hadith" and you'll see most signs have already passed.

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  20. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    there's no difference between a muslim prophet and other prophets.

    the word muslim means the one who submits to the will of god.

    with that said, noah, moses, jesus, abraham - are all muslims.

    like it or not.

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