The truth: Carbon Dating. Atheist will not like this.

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  1. breathlesss

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    ok, i was lookin' up stuff about the geologic column, happened to find an article? which has essentially collected all of what i was intending on, plus some, all of which is pretty much spot on, the auther includes, formulas, real ones, many, many actual references, names of real science folk and evidence of the real work that's been done.

    Paleosols

    I would copy and paste all of it, but the article contains several pictures and the like, in short though, it explains what *geologists (not creationists) consider the "column" why there are some parts that aren't a perfect column, and also goes into detail about pluton decay, and the amount of heat (there's yer latent heat for ya coupy) that would be released by all the catastrophic geologic activity resulting in the present state of the matter



    and then, this, is how the scientifically accepted geologic column has CHANGED, drastically, since it started to be discovered, and how coup is a blatant fucking liar yet again in stating that all the radiometic dating is altered to fit the original layer dates...
    Geologic time scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    and then this is the currently accepted method and reason for the present date column

    Global Boundary Stratotype Section and Point - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    it is still a work in progress, but, the work that has thus far proven creationism idiotic

    and, it's not an agenda, but if it is, then what is the evil in knowledge being the outcome?
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  2. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    What about Woodmorappe/Peczkis' claim that most locations on Earth do not show evidence for erosion?... is based on the fact that a sequence of fossils is missing between otherwise conformable looking strata

    You are setting up a strawman to knock over. This is not the problem with the geological column and not the questions/problems raised against the fairy tale. The article is junk rhetoric. It is also not evidence for anything. What this article does is create more problems for evolution. At the rate of erosion in reality, the entire earth would have been eroded completely flat several times over, if the earth is billions of years old. But we still have mountain ranges and deep trenches.

    I can talk to you about the column, tell you how it should work and how we should find it in nature. I can draw it up, teach it and have faith that the fossils in the layers date the rocks and the rocks date the layers with index fossils. As taught to you fools.

    But you know what ? The geological column does not exist anywhere, but in text books. It is not found complete in any one location. You should really start to think for yourself and understand history.



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  3. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    its not game over

    it just means its flawed.

    doesnt mean the world is 6000yrs old
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  4. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    Busta, there is real evidence that the earth is young, scientifically.

    Busta, there is not one proof for an old earth.

    Why are you so resistant to the truth ? Is it because you don't want God between your lustful ways ?

    I've been asking this question but have not yet gotten an answer yet: What is your best evidence for an old earth ?

    Why do you believe in what you do ? Think about that some.
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  5. Jay Bee

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    and up is down and down is up
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  6. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    lmao

    Do you understand that saying ? The beauty in it is that it is true and appalling at the same time.
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  7. x calibur

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    I could demolish this argument. but I won't, because I honestly feel bad and I don't want to shatter your little brain.
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  8. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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  9. x calibur

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    ok, if you're ready.

    carbon dating is not the only kind of radiometric dating!

    there are many different radioactive elements with different half-lifes, ranging from very short lengths of time to billions of years, and everything in between. uranium-lead dating is a tried and true method which has determined the age of rocks to be millions or billions of years old.

    Radiometric dating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Uranium-lead dating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    as you see, there are numerous methods which allow us to determine geological age, and they can be cross-referenced.
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  10. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    im resistant to your truth because your version of god is intolerant. My critical thinking skills and common sense tell me that if there is a god he wouldnt have a specific religion, he/she/it would accept all living things.

    my best evidence for an old earth?
    i dont care about the fight to prove it enough to do any research. But i highly doubt the earth is only 6000yrs old. Show me evidence that doesnt come from the bible, doesnt come from a creationist christian/christian website, and is 100% proven fact. Untill then ill always doubt.

    why do i believe in what i do?
    what do i do in your opinion? I believe in what i do because im witness to it.
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  11. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    Wiki is your first mistake. They only uphold the web of evolution -which is the foundation of the mainstream humanist world view. There is no cross referencing falsehoods unto truth. Not possible. So, I will now show you a few things.

    Believe this: I am very aware of other dating methods. And I promise you that my next thread will shut down radiometric dating...tomarrow night.


    Also, I don't think you are quite hearing me when I say there is only one truth. Not my truth, but absolute truth of God and his word. Nothing can refute this truth. Every lie, false hood and exaggeration will be shredding up in light of his Truth and His Word. Believe that.

    So, look forward to the radiometric dating thread now coming, it will take a minute to slap together. What are you going to do once you realize I am not lying to you, that God is real and in charge ? Are you going to grow or shut down ? Time will tell.

    Intellect does not leave you once you depart from the religion of evolution. Majority opinion (as upheld by even Wiki) is not evidence against Gods truth. Believing in truth does not leave you with a scientific inferiority complex. There is not one ounce of evidence for evolution. Evolution and old universe beliefs are not apart of science. I'm not saying this just because I know truth of God, but I know from scientific inference, not preference of philosophy which evolution is built on...
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  12. x calibur

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    there are many other sources of this info, I just linked one of the most accessible. there's lots of literature on everything in science.

    if I come across religious truth, ill get down with it 100%. until then, I'll stick to Deism, since it makes the most sense to me.

    ill also stick to science, since it is so rational, consistent, and accomplished. if you can refute it, go ahead! - universities and institutions around the world await your results.

    ill look forward to the next thread. but if you find yourself melting down from the light of reason, just tell yourself that radiometric dating is the devil, and that the devil is typing these posts, and you should pull through.
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  13. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    dude hes just gonna link to a page that explains there are flaws in radiometric dating
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  14. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    Friend Busta,

    You say its my truth. The truth does not belong to me or do I create it. I simply recognize it through the Light of the Living God. Through his record that is observable both scientifically in the natural world, and through his Word left for about the creation as per His promise.

    The heart is the chief deceiver and in mans feelings is where we say what ought to be and what ought not to be; foolishly these are not grounds for tampering with God, His will or His expectation that we understand Him. Understand this: He created man. We should get to know He. For what is man that He is mindful of us ? He is a very tolerant God. He loves us more than our minds can comprehend. He came to earth in the flesh as a ransom for all. He is Just, Fair and unchangeable. God accepts all living, but sin is not allowed in the third heaven. Man fell, and by man came sin into the world. He has a way to Him still, and knowing that sin separates us from Him, He sent Holy Jesus.

    Moreover, I think you are a honest seeker of Truth. How would you react if I said I want to personally send you a clean copy of the Bible ? Read it, it's not scary. It's the Truth suppressed from you. In it you would learn about life. Let no man teach you, but God. Not even me. I can show you where to find it, but I can't make it happen for you. Only Jesus.

    It's interesting that you lump all evidence for Truth into a bin of non credibility. And who said anything about Christan websites ? The truth, no matter where it is stored is still truth. You will not find it in any secular university that teaches "In the Beginning Dirt" You will not find truth on TV, in newspapers, in any medium already pulled under unto a deceptive lure.

    You are not a witness to an old earth/universe. Nobody is. You are not hearing me. Thousands of REAL scientist as well as other major fields of study, molecular biology, genetics, physics, etc...all reveal the truth in that there is 100% no doubt about the Creation. A real honest person in a position knows this.

    There are two worlds. Two rulers. Satan and King Jesus. By one you will be a deceived fool, pulled that way by lucrative ideologies which in the end of its road is death.

    The other world is Truth and an ability to know and discern anything for being either truth or not. This is the power of King Jesus. He is real. He died as a ransom for man, He ascended up into heaven three days later and sits at the right hand of God.

    He will return.

    (did you know that I was a scoffer once Just like you ? How is it that I've changed so drastically in the worlds opinion ? In short, Christ)
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  15. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    You are close to Truth, with your mind at least open to honest talk.

    Evolution (1-5 steps) is not apart of Science. Real honest science that is observable, testable, demonstrable all, I mean ALL, indicates with out a doubt that Life was created. I kid you not.

    You don't understand that evolution is really like a State Protected Religion and that it has to be taught in University. Don't be so naive. Science is not set for truth, if it were then evolution would have been canned years ago (160 years ago). The agenda, humanist by definition, has set the prescient that the world HAS to be explain in a naturalist way, void of God. No other lines of evidence will be tolerated. Facts and evidence that go against the state protection of evolution is ignored, thrown out and hushed. Believe me. I studied Fisheries and Wildlife (biology/evolution) at Michigan State University for 4 1/2 years. Not that being a student is necessary to see this Truth.

    If you were to teach capitalism in Soviet Russia 30 years ago you would be shunned in exile to Siberia. Well, universities today in the world are academic Soviet Russia

    What is so bad about using the scientific method honestly, agenda free, in the mainstream universities and finding that Life cannot of possibly evolved...we know this already but it's not allowed. What is wrong then, that in knowing Life could not have evolved, that evolution is 100% non fact, that we know there is a Creator biased on science and reason, that we then turn to God ?

    If you believe "In the beginning Primordial Soup" how much of a stretch is it to believe the truth of God ?

    Do you ever feel something is wrong ?

    In my next thread I will use logic and cold hard facts and truth. You are ignorant of the Bible Truth and blow it off. That is a learned behavior. You are not dumb and ignorance is correctable, stupidity is not. So, once I show you you will know what to do next.

    Jesus is the answer. It took me 29 years to realize, and I've only been saved a Year.

    Cya tomorrow.
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  16. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    I resent that. I put HOURS into my threads. I do it because I want the Truth out. I am not kidding.
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  17. x calibur

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    interesting theory there. ive read up on a wide variety of topics, and I determine what makes sense based on my own inquiry. that's what led me to my current outlook. if you say that you can win me over to creationism, ill at least give you a fair read. but I doubt that ill be convinced.
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  18. Coup d'état

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    I'm not trying to win you over to Creation Science. I want you to see a few things that I know already, not because I am smarter, but because I've went through the process already. There are millions who know, thousands of legit scientist, scholars and distinguished men who know. Evolution is believed by 55% of secular university professors, and the majority of people (citizens) do not believe it at all. I can get the data, but statistics are useless anyhow. Truth matters.

    Evolution is not science (mix in a little science with poison and a lie is believed). It is indoctrination from day one in school. PBS is notorious for airing indoctrination 'documentaries" on evolution, so are most secular media outlets, it's the culture and fabric of our rebellious society/world. I literally cringe when I watched "What Darwin Never Knew" the other day.

    Evolution is a faith destroyer - there is a reason it's taught and it's NOT out of pure honesty curiosity about our origins or our world (though A LOT of honest people believe in it. it takes a leap of faith) 75% of believers faith is destroyed effectively in the first year of secular university. For the secular humanist, evolution is a light that all facts must be illumined...or made to fit. Pangaea, for example is theorized to make the theory seem good and used to explain errors, though Pangaea never happened at all. Billions of years are need to make it look good too. Though nobody can know that (the speed of light has been shown not to be a constant and it has been slowed to zero in labs, the universe is probably stretched at a distance, but not that old).

    Evolution has a funny (sinister) history, and is the back bone for communism, Marxism, socialism and racism IMO

    There is such a thing as good and evil. It does not only exist in movies or cartoons.

    The Bible has a bad rap from secular attacks, deception in the Church and legislation against it to keep it far, far away. Though not one thing about it has ever been shown false or wrong. It's an amazing book and it is truth.


    My personal inquiry led my to Jesus, but now I'm realizing that if a person honestly seeks truth Jesus will pull you to him and reveal it to you. He will show you how it is not a religion, how can truth be religious? he will show you the false religions such as the Vatican and Islam, and NWO agenda that pushes deception like evolution (which is taught for a plethora of reasons). Let no man teach you, the Bible is for you to read. It is understandable. Don't judge it by secular attacks (which are plenty and daily) or by it's abuse.


    Good luck in your journey. Don't rule out the Bible (KJV) or you will only be chasing your tail in circles. Start to read against evolution for exersize. You will be blown away.
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  19. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    the heart does not deceive

    emotions cause the deception.

    I will not ever accept a god who is intolerant of others. The KJ version of god is a very unlikable character from what ive seen.

    God loves everyone. Its not a club with rules.
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  20. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    Busta, you accept the rules placed on you by man. You live in agreement with lies and abstractions of laws and obstructions of Justice meant to limit your freedom and prosperity. It's happening now. The world wide "recession" was by no mistake, rather by calculated greed and the strings are pulled by the puppet masters (elites)

    But in the same breath you deny a loving God set out to save you from these devices ?


    come on man.

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