The Media finally agrees.. homosexuals aren't human.

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  1. Most people (13 year olds, socialists, liberals, Peter Pan complex, etc.) tend to agree that abortion isn't killing humans or actual people.

    So why does this article say the following:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071016/ap_on_sc/gay_genetics;_ylt=AuGE.19p7q14rmBjxEbfmEKs0NUE

    Many gays fear that if gay genes are identified, it could result in discrimination, prenatal testing and even abortions to eliminate homosexuals, said Joel Ginsberg of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.

    Wait... abortion is capable of killing actual people now!? Since when did this become possible!? Abortion used to eliminate specific kinds of people? That's not possible!
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  2. Yahunyahti

    Yahunyahti New Member

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    Abortion is no more murder than jerking off is.
    Homosexuals are just aware that they are a defect and wish to defend themselves.
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  3. Defend themselves? From what? Abortion doesn't kill people. Therefore, nothing to defend from.
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  4. Leila Night

    Leila Night efrain,you're my one&only

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    Wow, guy.

    + neocons.
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  6. Yahunyahti

    Yahunyahti New Member

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    That's the way they have been conditioned to think. Come on now, Ghet. I know you've read Pike:

    "The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.

    The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.

    The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
    - Albert Pike (Letter to Mazzini August 15th, 1871
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  7. I don't need some conspiracy to tell me that stuff.

    All you need is history!

    "The arrow shot by the archer may or may not kill a single person. But stratagems devised by a wise man can kill even babes in the womb."
    ~Kaitilya, Indian Philosopher, Third Century B.C.
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  8. Yahunyahti

    Yahunyahti New Member

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    That was a reference to a mixed drink, goof. It had nothing to do with modern abortion. You pretend to be a realist, Ghet. How would you suggest humanity deal with human overpopulation? Should we continue taking care of defects who should be naturally dying off? Homosexuality and Abortion are a peaceful and passive way of reducing the human population in half.

    There is also the other option, which you apparently want . . . World War 3.
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  9. Hate to burst your bubble... but overpopulation isn't a problem, you misanthropist.

    Abortion and homosexuality do not exist to cure overpopulation. They exist to keep 18-24 male demographics from spiking, and thus, causing power shifts.
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  10. Leila Night

    Leila Night efrain,you're my one&only

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    Gosh, but utilitarianism is evil.
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  11. Yahunyahti

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    [funny]

    Okay, Ghet.


    I'm not going to go back and forth with you. Here's a homework assignment.
    What is the current world population?
    What was it 50 years ago?
    What was it 100 years ago?
    What will it be 50 years from now (if the rate continues)?
    What will it be 100 years from now (if the rate continues)?
    What will it be in 500 years (if the rate increases, due to technological advances)?
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  12. Yahunyahti

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    Ghet, you're going to have to grow up one of these days and become a realist.
    The reality is that abortion, suicide and homosexuality benefits the human population as a whole. What benefits the whole, is good. What benefits only the individuals at the expense of the whole is not good. That is what determines good and bad.

    Homosexuals are genetic defects. There is no debate in that. Every species has homosexuals and in every species (aside from humans) they reduce the population of that species. There is a design to the universe and a natural balance to things. You complain about abortion but care nothing about the children birthed by homosexuals who get artificially impregnated.

    Come on, guy.
    Come on.

    Act white and be serious.
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  13. BlackSoultan Ad Infinitum

    BlackSoultan Ad Infinitum aka Billy Shoreview

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    1. Where's the HDD?
    2. On the topic of this thread, you're better than this, ghet. Your source is not "the media", it's "Joel Ginsberg of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association" that's saying this. Neither he nor the media are experts. But let's look at what they said:

    3. Did they say "abortion is capable of killing actual people" or did they say "eliminating homosexuals"? Because the latter could mean elimination before they start, such as before they are "people". That's what a pro-lifer would say to that. I'm neither.

    So what does that mean for your propagandist thread here?

    1. Your source is fucked because none of them are "doctors"; not the writer of the article or "joel Ginsberg" whom you've actually quoted.
    2. If Joel does happen to be a doctor, he happens to be "of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association". That's a very biased and unreliable source, especially as it applies to whether a fetus is a person or not. That question will never be answered.
    and 3. Assuming points 1 and 2 have gone your way, YOUR biased paraphrasing is flawed because "eliminate" does not mean "kill" and could easily be construed as the "termination of a pregnancy", not the "death of a person". That's the hinge upon which the entire abortion debate has rested forever.

    You've made no discovery hear, introduced nothing new to the discussion. You've only re-established your biased position.
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  14. Yahunyahti

    Yahunyahti New Member

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    My boogers have more cells than an aborted fetus.
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  15. BlackSoultan Ad Infinitum

    BlackSoultan Ad Infinitum aka Billy Shoreview

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    That's not even relevant.
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  16. And you're going to have to learn to put all the pieces together instead of looking at things one dimensionally like an isolated naturalist/spiritualist/wiccan/whatever-the-fuck hippy bogusness you refuse to question.

    Overpopulation is not a problem. It is a myth.

    The more people you add to an area, there is either a fight, flight, or capitulation response.

    -FOR ALL OF HISTORY- the default response was flight.

    That is -STILL- the case today.

    Overpopulation exists LOCALLY, not GLOBALLY.

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    Red = population urbanziation. Guess what doesn't exist globally? GUESS WHAT IS ADDICTED TO EXISTING NEXT TO THE COAST LINES? See all that other area? Outstripping resources? What? How? WHAT resources? Water? Air? Nice beach front property? Oh no, the pretty view!

    It will take humans thousands upon thousands of years to leave a reasonable dent in our biosphere to the point we can actually legitamately have a debate about "Overpopulation is going to kill us! Quick, kill everyone that isn't yourself!"

    It's environmentalist naysayer doomsay bullshit.

    Paul Ehrlich: "The population of the U.S. will shrink from 250 million to about 22.5 million before 1999 because of famine and global warming"

    Sure we was. Good job on Environmentalism making failed prediction after failed prediction for over three-hundred years since the time of Thomas Malthus.

    Warfare used to do WONDERS for reducing populations locally, yet, you people whine constantly about it. Guess who used to participate in all of those wars? 18-24 males.

    Abortion does not exist to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Abortion exists to solve a problem that does: keeping 18-24 male demographics in check to prevent power stability issues.

    As always, if you truly believe overpopulation is a problem, then start with yourself.
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  17. 1: Special Interest groups have just as much influence over a medical debate as practioneers and researchers. Don't argue from the position of 'should'.

    2A: That source of that quote comes from the http://www.glma.org/ Read that site very carefully. Are you suggesting that this organization is ultimately useless since it comes up with conclusions about gay rights and medical practicies, but it's spokesperson isn't a doctor?

    2B: The answer about what exactly abortion is killing has been answered from the time it was brought up as a tactic of warfare in 300 BC in India. 13-year olds, liberal, socialists, and Peter Pan Complexities will never capitulate because they are emotionally invested in the idea. There is a big difference between being unable to answer something logically and half of the Western population covering their ears and shouting dogmatic phrases while rocking back and forth in a corner.

    3: Ah, so now you wish to argue semantics. Care to explain how abortion would eliminate homosexuals, then, without actually "killing" them? Can you explain how a termination of a pregnancy is possible without "killing" a person? Genetic researchers have been looking for this answer for stem cell research for the past decade. There is alot of money to be had in answering either question.

    We've already spoken about the HDD. Did you not remember the conversation?
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  18. Yahunyahti

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    Ghet, I'll repeat myself since you're trying to avoid the question. I'm not concerned with charts colored in. I'm not concerned with your petty ego which you're foolishly trying to defend. I'm concerned with numbers.

    What are the numbers?
    What were they 50 years ago?
    What were they 100 years ago?
    What will they be 500 years from now with advanced technology.

    Come on.
    Stay with me.

    When you resort to emotional outbursts and Ad Hominem attacks you automatically admit you've lost. Keep that in mind.
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  19. And I will repeat myself since words are hard for you neo-hippie types.

    Stop looking at complex global systems from the perspective of one variable.

    Population is not the end-all be-all variable required to determine overpopulation.

    Since you seem so hellbent on the idea that abortion, homosexuality, and demasculanization of the world is successful, all of these practices have failed horribly at keeping populations down globally. In fact, with the staggering number of 700 million killed in 50 years by this Socialist practice that operates under the assumption of "preventing overpopulation" the ONLY populations that have suffered from it... are WESTERN. NOT THE OTHER 5 BILLION HUMAN BEINGS ELSEWHERE.

    Killing the unborn via capitalist motivation has failed in rolling back populations peacefully and has resulted in an immigration crisis throughout all Western nations. (Gratz, women sluaghtered their own childre but SURPISELOL now we have no workforce to tax to keep these fucking whining Baby Boomer fucktards alive on their precious government intervention pensions.. quick... import some Mexicans! But never question the path we are on.. we will always have a bandaid!)

    Killing the unborn via Socialist government control has failed in rolling back populations peacefully. China hasn't stopped one inch of growth to "managable" levels.

    These tactics are being applied to LOCAL POPULATIONS ONLY. This is done to solve LOCAL POPULATION problems. 18-24 male demographic spiking IE having to hand over power to the newer generation.
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  20. Yahunyahti

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    Ghet, grow up.


    Numbers, Ghet.
    Show me the numbers.
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