1. I find it humorous that now suddenly you're using BNW terms (and you clearly have no grasp on the characters or what you're saying). The irony is that you're telling me that the "Warden" (Mond) is a fool and that I am like him, when I am John (The Savage) and you are playing the role of the God denying "warden" and failing miserably at it. :thumb: By the way, Lenina never said people shouldn't be allowed to speak (you clearly haven't read the book) and a Gamma? What do I have in common with a Gamma, Menaz? What is the Gamma in BNW like? You've never even read the book . . . [funny]. Probably read a summary on Wiki. haha And Laugh Out Loud, Rolling Over, Holding My Side @ Huxley making it up as he goes. Dude Huxley was fuckin brilliant. Your Agnosticism was founded by his grandfather and he was far superior in Intelligence than Darwin's "Bulldog." In fact, Huxley wrote an essay which disproved Darwin. You shouldn't speak on subjects that you clearly know absolutely nothing about. LOL @ You trying to insult Huxley and then taking up the religion his Grandfather invented, which he himself rejected. Huxley was Dawkins to the 10th power. Dawkins . . . haha Don't make me laugh. Dawkins would have sat silent if he ever met Huxley. Why don't you write your idol a letter and ask him what he thinks of Aldous Huxley. Dawkins sucks Darwin's dick. Who do you suppose was best friends with Darwin? Huxley's grandfather. You're a simple simple mind. I pity you. I do. Poor shaitan. 2. That example I provided, wasn't provided to prove God. It was provided to prove that your argument against God is flawed. If you're going to disprove God then you're going to have to do better than attacking with a logical fallacy. Just because a man states that God told him to kill, that does not mean God actually told him to kill. You cannot say that God is a killer, just because a man said God told him to kill. And just because a book claims to be "The Word of God" that does not make it so. God doesn't write books. Men use God and write books to carry out their wishes. Also, you cannot disprove God by saying to me, "You cannot prove God!" I cannot prove God to you. No. I also cannot prove the Sea Turtle to the Amish. You know why? Cause there's no Ocean in the middle of the country and they don't travel that far from home. You are the Amo and you're asking me to prove a sea turtle to you . . . but you won't visit the ocean. I already told you why I cannot prove God to you. I'm sorry that you don't understand. I wish you were more intelligent. I'll tell you what though, I'll pray for you. If you are incapable of experiencing God, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Accept the Holy Spirit Menaz. You have to be open to experience in order to experience. Accept Yeshua in your life, Menaz. Accept that you are a child of God and that it was God who gave you life. If you reject this, then you cannot feel God's presence because you are rejecting God, not the other way around. You cannot close yourself off to experience and then say, "Make me experience!" It doesn't work like that. God doesn't need you. You need God. God has nothing to prove to you. If you close your eyes and say to me, "Prove that there is a moon." How would I do that? You won't open your eyes and you want me to prove it? How? You have to experience "seeing" the moon yourself. In the same way you would have to experience God yourself. And yes, ALL experience is internal. Can you experience something "outside" of yourself? Does the object you're experiencing not become part of you (psychologically) the moment you experience it? Poor lost soul. Dawkins has polluted your mind. 3. Insulting God because of man's actions is a bit foolish, isn't it? If God created human beings and gave them freewill . . . then mankind is responsible for mankind's plight. Isn't that a bit cheap, blaming God? Humans want freewill and want the right to choose their path, but then when somebody else chooses to infringe on others, you blame God. So you don't want God to intervene unless somebody is making the wrong decision? Then you want God to intervene with everyone, at all times, before they make mistakes? Where would the freewill be? Your mind is a clusterfuck, kiddo. If God makes you do right, did you do right or did God do right through you? God doesn't make you do evil or anybody else. Shaitan (the divided mind) does. God didn't create your allegorical Roman Coliseum. Man did and man uses God as his excuse. That isn't God's fault. That's man's fault. I pity you. You are so lost. Poor Poor Shaitan. 4.Four times you mentioned me emulating Huxley in some imaginary picture . . . what picture Menaz? What picture did I take, posing like Huxley? I'm just gonna go ahead and quote you cause I know how you like to duck responses that you can't respond to and stretch out long-winded replies in hopes of overwhelming the other person with your rhetoric. Here goes: I've read his book, Menaz. I know that you haven't read his book(s). You're full of shit and I'm calling you on it. You've watched his youtube videos. You're a pitiful little angry guy. I can just imagine you over there punching out your replies with little beads of sweat (like an oil lamp) running down your pitiful face. I bet you wear glasses, don't you? Do they get steamed up when you read my replies? [funny] What probability did Dawkins offer to the world to disprove God's existence, Menaz? Go to your Barnes & Noble and skim through it. You won't find it online. Maybe you can find it in one of Dawkin's book(s) and you can let me know what page it is on and what book it is. Dawkins never provided a probability, Menaz. If he did it would ruin his career. He would be laughed out of the scientific field. So you wrote three replies in a row . . . because you're not interested in the discussion? Riiiight Stay on subject. Stop straying off course with emotional replies, Menaz. Let's count up your personal attacks, shall we? Yes, we shall. This is a sign of defeat. Look at all the fury in these replies. Look at all the aggression and anger. You remind me of that Asian kid who shot up VA Tech. I'm not quite sure what this next one means . . . but evidently it was the "stupidity shit I've ever said". . . I gotta admit, I love your little emotional outbursts. They're adorable.