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  1. haatley

    haatley Well-Known Member

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    better wrestling pedigree? josh koshcheck, jon fitch, jake shields, chael sonnen to name a few.

    cardio wise, fitch has proven to be just as good in that department, if not better as him and gsp cannot finish fights and go the distance every time.
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    i'm not talking about a better pedigree, gsp didn't do any amateur wrestling. i'm talking about better wrestling in mma and he already proved he could outwrestled koscheck and fitch

    and fitch is even less of a finisher than gsp. the top of that weight class is tough
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  3. BossMayne

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    since some people cant read

    "As for the Sonnen fight, lets consider all the factors. Silva went into that fight with a rib injury, and after round 1 his ribs were broken. On top of that, Sonnen was on steriods. Soo let me get this straight, a steriod filled wrestler, got submited to anderson silva, who had a broken rib? Lmao, imagine a 100% healthy Silva vs Sonnen without steriods.... And the broken rib isnt even an excuse, silva still won the fight........

    silva couldnt even breathe throughout the fight with his broken ribs but still submited sonnen, and sonnen was on steriods. lmfao, what more of an advantage do you need to win the fight?"

    was matt sera on steriods? lol nah, he just knocked the shit out of GSP. Anderson never been knocked out in his career or TKO'd. If Anderson can beat the shit out of people who are 35 pounds heavier than GSP, then im sure he can TKO gsp
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    when did he prove he can outwrestle koscheck?
    he was 4 of 9 in takedowns in the most recent fight against koshchck and koscheck stood back up pretty quick.
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  5. THE CRUNK GHOST

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    the bruised rib (and the one that chael cracked) would definitely hurt his takedown defense, but watch his first round against henderson. any great wrestler can control him on the ground as anderson doesn't have great sweeps or escapes. if henderson didn't change his gameplan to throwing haymakers in the 2nd round he probably would have done a lot better

    as for chael's PED's, he informed the commission beforehand of whatever testosterone supplement he was taking and they let him fight, but then suspended him. it's a retarded situation and the commission cut his suspension in half because of it. anderson and gsp have both definitely fought dudes who were on steroids before (and may have taken them themselves). it's really common but most guys are just smart enough to keep from getting caught
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    and he stuffed all but 1 of koscheck's takedowns

    i'm done arguing about silva/gsp, it's all hypothetical until gsp beats shields and we finally get to see the fight
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  7. BossMayne

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    i agree with the hendo fight, however silva still won via submission. 1 round of take downs doesnt define a champion

    as for the chael incident, he lied. chael never informed anyone about the PEDs he was taking, infact, Keith Kizer, who Chael name dropped, said hes never spoken to chael in his entire life..

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    anyways GSP is going to beat Shields by laying on him for 5 rounds, so when that happens and Anderson/GSP get set up, we can finally see who really is the better fighter really is
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  8. THE CRUNK GHOST

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    he lied about keith kizer saying it was ok, if that was true the suspension would have been revoked entirely

    but he really did tell them that he was taking test before the fight, and they didn't stop him from fighting:

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  9. BossMayne

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    the fact that there is the form of approval and him still getting suspended at all shows the situation is some shady shit on both sides. even though he was using it, Silva still won. No matter how bad the fight was for silva. If there was a rematch I would imagine Silva being 100% healthy with no rib injury and Sonnen wouldnt be on PEDs. If Sonnen couldnt win before there is no way he would even come close to winning a fair fight

    and as I said before, were going to have to wait for the actual GSP/Silva fight to go down. GSP better win that Shields fight
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    wait.. what exactly is this?

    im a noob
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  11. Polystyrene Man

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    it's a paternity test
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  12. Stock

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    is he the father?
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  13. THE CRUNK GHOST

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    a form the fighters fill out when they give a piss sample the day before the fight

    he was pregnant
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  14. Polystyrene Man

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    no he checked "i decline"
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  15. Stock

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    What an asshole, they let him fight anderson after declining his child?
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  16. Austin Rivers

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    fedor has the most mma fights in history


    choppa ur a fuckin moron who sucks dick for breakfast
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  17. THE CRUNK GHOST

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    hahaahah wtf no he doesn't
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  18. bobbylight

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    wrestling pedigree doesn't mean shit. You don't have to be a genius to see the fitch fight and know who the better wrestler is...you could make an argument that kos is a better wrestling but in terms of mma I don't think so.
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    Anderson has been submitted by japanese cans with horrible records...he lost to the great 9-13-1 takase and the p4p great ryo chonan with a record of 18-12. Being able to beat people that are heavier than gsp doesn't mean that you can beat gsp. That is absolutely horrible logic. If that logic held up minowaman would be able to DESTROY anderson because minowaman has beaten guys that weigh almost twice as much as anderson. So I guess you think that is true, right?
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  20. BossMayne

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    thoes fights werent 7 years ago though, right? im sure anderson is the same fighter and hasnt changed at all

    And no thats not what I said at all. Anderson is the p4p king and is able to dominate in 2 seperate divisions without taking 1 loss in the ufc. GSP took 2 losses in his division and still wont move up to middleweight. Anderson had to move up a few times just because he was so bored destroying people at 185. Anderson also never been TKOed or KOed in his MMA career. lmfao @ minowaman, dude got like 30+ losses? Solid comparison, I think we can really compare the 2.....
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