Okay, seeing as how the other Sicko thread was ruined for seven pages of identity X not realizing menaz is an imbecile (literally; look it up), I feel the need to ask a pointed question with this thread: WHY WOULDN'T UNIVERSAL MEDICINE WORK HERE? Someone has to be able to prove Moore is lying. Not about the insurance companies finding ways not to pay you, that's obvious. That's the point of the business they are in. But can someone show me that he's lying about the little girl refused life-saving service because she needed to go to Kaiser. Someone tell me he's lying about someone getting an inhaler for 5 cents in Cuba where it costs 120 where they are from and we cannot get this kind of care or even a slight discount for the closest thing America has seen to a hero since the revolutionary war. Someone tell me he's lying about it working AT ALL in other countries. I don't need to believe for a moment that it works as well as he says it does in Britain, France and Canada and Cuba, I just need to know it works AT ALL because it is not working here. I don't need to tell you what happened to my girl's grandmother at Kaiser last year, but it is retarded. Subpar care is an understatement. I come from a fam who's been known for its existence within the best medical/dental care in my country for going on seventy years. I am not an american and could care very little about the health care system here because apparently, it's cheaper for me to fly to the Bahamas to dear old Dad then it would be for me to catch a cold in L.A. I will tell you that Cuba is known for amazing healthcare. Not free bad healthcare, but damn near free amazing healthcare. How the hell do they do that? How the hell do they do that there AND in England? Failed communism AND democracy? Can someone tell me how in a country where we pay forty percent of our income in the wealthiest nation in the world, we can't do that here? Fuck the political scare tactics of "oh, stupid republicans think it will lead to communism because Ron Reagan said so on a record in the fifties" crap. We know it would not lead to communism NOW because it HASN'T in any of the nations where we see it work. We know it won't lead to any more beauraucracy than the HMO's would. So why not?