So no crucifixion in roman culture...

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  1. lyricalpriest

    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    Ok say they did crucify jesus on a cross: Some might wish to avoid this conclusion by declaring the Sanhedrin to have charged Jesus with blasphemy. Yet this is no better. Clearly, those sentenced to execution by the Sanhedrin were not to be given honorable burial.
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  2. TheBigPayback

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    The gospels themselves testify as to who recieved his body to be entomebed. (People werent buried..)

    Mat 27:57-60

    57 And in the evening, there came a man of wealth from Arimathaea, Joseph by name, who was a disciple of Jesus: 58 This man went in to Pilate, and made a request for the body of Jesus. Then Pilate gave orders for it to be given to him. 59 And Joseph took the body, folding it in clean linen, 60 And put it in the resting-place which had been cut out of the rock for himself; and after rolling a great stone to the door of it he went away.

    Mar 15:42-46

    42 And when it was evening, because it was the time of getting ready, that is, the day before the Sabbath, 43 There came Joseph of Arimathaea, a responsible man in high honour, who was himself waiting for the kingdom of God; and he went in to Pilate without fear, and made a request for the body of Jesus. 44 And Pilate was surprised that he was dead; and, sending for the captain, he put a question to see if he had been dead for long. 45 And when he had news of it from the captain, he let Joseph have the body. 46 And he got a linen cloth and, taking him down, put the linen cloth round him, and put him in a place for the dead which had been cut out of a rock; and a stone was rolled against the door.

    Luk 23:50-54

    50 Now there was a man named Joseph, a man of authority and a good and upright man 51 He had not given his approval to their decision or their acts, of Arimathaea, a town of the Jews, who was waiting for the kingdom of God: 52 This man went to Pilate and made a request for the body of Jesus. 53 And he took it down, and folding it in a linen cloth, he put it in a place cut in the rock for a dead body; and no one had ever been put in it. 54 Now it was the day of making ready and the Sabbath was coming on.

    Joh 19:31-42 57 And in the evening, there came a man of wealth from Arimathaea, Joseph by name, who was a disciple of Jesus: 58 This man went in to Pilate, and made a request for the body of Jesus. Then Pilate gave orders for it to be given to him. 59 And Joseph took the body, folding it in clean linen, 60 And put it in the resting-place which had been cut out of the rock for himself; and after rolling a great stone to the door of it he went away. 42 And when it was evening, because it was the time of getting ready, that is, the day before the Sabbath, 43 There came Joseph of Arimathaea, a responsible man in high honour, who was himself waiting for the kingdom of God; and he went in to Pilate without fear, and made a request for the body of Jesus. 44 And Pilate was surprised that he was dead; and, sending for the captain, he put a question to see if he had been dead for long. 45 And when he had news of it from the captain, he let Joseph have the body. 46 And he got a linen cloth and, taking him down, put the linen cloth round him, and put him in a place for the dead which had been cut out of a rock; and a stone was rolled against the door. 50 Now there was a man named Joseph, a man of authority and a good and upright man 51 He had not given his approval to their decision or their acts, of Arimathaea, a town of the Jews, who was waiting for the kingdom of God: 52 This man went to Pilate and made a request for the body of Jesus. 53 And he took it down, and folding it in a linen cloth, he put it in a place cut in the rock for a dead body; and no one had ever been put in it. 54 Now it was the day of making ready and the Sabbath was coming on. 31 Now it was the day of getting ready for the Passover, and so that the bodies might not be on the cross on the Sabbath because the day of that Sabbath was a great day, the Jews made a request to Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. 32 So the men of the army came, and the legs of the first were broken and then of the other who was put to death on the cross with Jesus: 33 But when they came to Jesus, they saw that he was dead by this time, and so his legs were not broken; 34 But one of the men made a wound in his side with a spear, and straight away there came out blood and water. 35 And he who saw it has given witness and his witness is true; he is certain that what he says is true so that you may have belief. 36 These things came about so that the Writings might be true, No bone of his body will be broken. 37 And again another verse says, They will see him who was wounded by their spears. 38 After these things, Joseph of Arimathaea, who was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews, made a request to Pilate to let him take away the body of Jesus: and Pilate said he might do so. So he went and took away his body. 39 And Nicodemus came he who had first come to Jesus by night with a roll of myrrh and aloes mixed, about a hundred pounds. 40 Then they took the body of Jesus, folding linen about it with the spices, as is the way of the Jews when they put the dead to rest. 41 Now there was a garden near the cross, and in the garden a new place for the dead in which no man had ever been put. 42 So they put Jesus there, because it was the Jews’ day of getting ready for the Passover, and the place was near.
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  3. lyricalpriest

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    being entombed is considered burial...and in the matter of jesus there wouldn't have been a tomb for him b/c they are expensive and they are used for royalty, and neither the jews or pilate woulda gave jesus the honor of being entombed after being flogged and "crucified" it just wouldn't happen if it was his relatives tomb then itd desecrate his family name by placing a body in there that was crucified, and not only that only aristocrats, kings, generals would be placed in tombs not common caprenters, drifters, jesus's

    edit: how would there just so happen to be a TOMB that has never been used in that location? the chances of that are very slim.. tombs are much more rare then graves. tombs would never be used for a heretical treasonous rebel.
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    Ur just willlingly being incompetent now. I cant read for u.
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  5. lyricalpriest

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    i cant read? bro your denying fact with your fairy tales:

    So God sacrificed himself to himself so we could bypass a rule that God made himself and that God deliberately designed us to never be able to meet? I can’t even understand that; I certainly feel no need to praise God for something so nonsensical. It’s like an abused wife thanking her abuser. We can just as logically curse God for consigning us to hell from birth

    nothing about the crucifiction is sensible..A: romans didn't bury those condemned to crucufiction.. there has never been another account of that except thru jesus of course B: romans didnt crucify people on crosses, and Christianity all over exploits the contradictive symbol...C:) The Bible itself rejects God’s savage “justice.” This is the 21st century. Must Iron Age customs persist so that we need a human sacrifice? If God loves us deeply and he wants to forgive us, couldn’t he just … forgive us? That’s how we do it, and that’s the lesson we get from the parable of the Prodigal Son where the father forgives the son even after being wronged by him. If that’s the standard of mercy, why can’t God follow it? Since God is so much greater a being than a human, wouldn’t he be that much more understanding and willing to forgive?
    If we were to twist the Prodigal Son parable to match the crucifixion story, the father might demand that the innocent son be flogged to pay for the crime of the prodigal son. Where’s the logic in that?

    i want you to really think about this shit before you run your mouth b/c fairy tales are for kids it's time you grow up, god would be pleased with you..
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