RSTL Tournament ~ The Final Round ~ 1. DiC -vs- 2. Tali

Discussion in 'RSTL Grudge Matches and Tournaments' started by DiC GeTs GuLLy, Feb 20, 2007.

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Who is the Winner of the RSTL Winter Master's Tournament of Topics

Poll closed Feb 28, 2007.
  1. DiC GeTs GuLLy is the Master

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  1. DiC GeTs GuLLy

    DiC GeTs GuLLy Hello

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    RSTL RULES AND REGULATIONS

    RULES AND REGULATIONS - THERE'S SOME NEW SHIT SO CLICK AND READ


    The Standard League Rules will still be Enforced



    • Check-in (Posting in your match to show that you are aware the match exists) is encouraged but not required.
    • Verses must incorporate at least one of the provided topics and must be at least 16 lines and must not exceed 64 lines.
    • Anyone who does not post at least 4 rap lines, incorporating at least one of the provided topics, is considered a no-show.
    • During check-in, you can ask your opponent to agree to a line limit (Minimum 16) and if your opponent agrees, Moderators will hold both participants to that limit.
    • Posting between 4-15 lines is considered a “show” but will not result in a match. If you post 4-15 lines, and your opponent posts between 16-64, you will lose the match but you will remain in the league. If you post 4-15 lines, and your opponent does not show, you will “Win by no-show”.

    Voting:
    • If you do not show you can’t vote in any matches. .
    • No bias votes! If you have a personal investment in wanting someone to lose, whether because that member voted against you once, or you just don’t like that person, whatever the reason, do not vote in the match. If have a personal investment in wanting someone to win, whether because they’re crew member, or because you want to face that person in the next week’s brackets, whatever the reason, do not vote in the match.
    • ”Bias” must be confirmed by a Moderator.
    • 3-ways are inevitable. In order to provide a tie-breaker in a 3-way, you are now required to indicate in what order the contestants finished (1st, 2nd, 3rd).
      anyone who does not show or vote is suspended one week and must sign-in again to be inserted the following week.



    Topics: http://board.rapmusic.com/showthread.php?t=1034842



    From now on if you don't vote in the tournament and win your match, you will be deducted a vote from your next match for every vote didn't give the previous week. If you show late and your partner allows the extension as long as it’s less than a day late, it can count, but you will be deducted 2 votes for showing late regardless.

    These rules will be put in effect starting now and won’t be modified again. I’m not bending or breaking anymore rules for anybody.



    Must READ: You must pick one of each topic to give your opponent some protection from choices and also so there isn't several verses written on the same topic that everyone has picked to be used.

    So pick one of the Title and Phrases, one of the Quotes and one of the Pics for your opponent.

    Thursday is the deadline for choosing topics or your opponent will get to pick their own topic. Topical choices must be posted in match threads by deadline.


    All other rules that are applied in the league will also be enforced for regulating the tournament. If you're not familiar with the rules of the RSTL, please read them.


    The only difference will be that in this tournament, your opponent will get to pick your topics for you. Topics must be picked and posted within the match thread within 1 day. If it's not posted, the opponent of the person that didn't pick a topic in time will get to choose his/her own topic. You must choose one of each kind of topic for some variety.


    So... topics will be up Wednesday 12am PST every week and topical choices are due Thursday 12am PST and verses are due Monday 12am PST, 3am EST, 8am Greenwich with votes due Wednesday 12 am PST, 3am EST, 8am Greenwich

    Also, there will be no recycling allowed. Nothing you've ever posted anywhere online will be allowed. The mods will be checking verses for authenticity with online search engines.

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  2. DiC GeTs GuLLy

    DiC GeTs GuLLy Hello

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    Tali's Topical Choices for me

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  3. DiC GeTs GuLLy

    DiC GeTs GuLLy Hello

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    Choicces for Tali


    Turntable Terror

    He who spares the wicked injures the good.
    Seneca

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  4. DiC GeTs GuLLy

    DiC GeTs GuLLy Hello

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    The Blues of Deja Vu


    The mist of the smoke dispenses a coat of exhaust
    Itching my throat, but as I deliver the notes they applaud
    Holding that last tone with a slow flow as I blow
    Giving my soul to the melody as these kisses explode
    Some women are driven to moan, but my attention is honed....
    To my only true partner in life, she lives in my home
    Bliss has approached.... we both bow as our symphony settles
    And the hostess screaming gives my beat additional treble

    "Whoooooaaaa... yea, give it up to Mr. Sinister Horn"

    And then their roars revive me more with all my senses reborn
    I notice I'm clinching my horn with a grip that's deformed
    But I can't feel it and control of my limbs has adjourned
    Feeling physically torn as I walk off the stage
    Staring at my pretty horn and getting lost in her face
    But it's time to call it a day for my troubling mind
    The tension had me so I fall asleep and cuddle her tight

    This fantasy glares ~ I dream we have a romantic affair
    As she sings to me, we both float and dance in the air
    She fits around my fingers in sweet perfection
    And with every button I push, she speaks a message
    Of deep affections and as the Sun sees our essence
    It's inspired to cause a horizon to peak reflections
    Surfing the clouds as she emerges the sounds of an angel
    Feeding me serenity from out of her halo
    Destiny became her name that defines her importance
    Our lips touch and the music comes alive from the forces
    Giving birth to tiny symbols of musical notes
    We're the parents of a family produced by our flow
    Then all of sudden, her body gets snatched from my hands
    And passed to some man who manipulates her passionate whims
    The sky falls and we all glide and crash to the ground
    Destiny smashes her mouth with several cracks as she howls
    I awaken shaking with her in my clutches and smile
    Refusing to sleep and lose her in dreams so I start rubbing her down
    For hours of caressing her curves, we're becoming aroused
    I jump on top licking spots, I slide my tongue in and out
    She moans in delight and that gives me a dosage I like
    To sleep through the night because tomorrow we have show to supply




    The Show

    We're waiting backstage, I'm chatting with the other musicians
    While listening to the sax player onstage put butter to rhythm
    Smooth and naturally flowing, my fingers are snapping in motions
    That he's composing as everyone basks in enjoyment
    He finishes up, extending the love with an exquisite touch
    I peek to view him and see he's doing a stroll while giving his lungs
    He pauses and catches his breath and pretends to be done
    Then begins on the 1.... people gasp, but that's when it erupts
    And ends with a plush standing ovation of hands
    I had to comment to the others....
    "That's a graceful young man."
    The next man comes to the mic, but there's something not right
    I hear him play and fear he may have stolen the love of my life
    Looking for her by my side, she's disappeared to the stage
    I stare at this guy raping her with tears on my face
    Then filling with rage, running at him full speed with no plan
    But to take my lady from his thieving funk hands
    My fists are beating on him and I've lost all control
    Punching his eye and kicking him after he falls on his nose
    He's brought that nightmare to life, but this time I fight for my wife
    When reacting for Love, my instincts climb high as the skies
    She's the part of my heart that supplies the best within me
    My essence of peace, the nectars of sweet bliss..... My Destiny


    Topic: The Greatest Love Of All

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  5. TaLi RodrigueZ

    TaLi RodrigueZ Washed Up Rapper...

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    Time Crunch


    Time is a beautiful thing, it brings structure and stasis
    And it allows us to collaborate with hundreds of places
    Each one of us bases our lives upon this chosen convention
    But these days it feels like all of us are owed an extension
    Whether you’re boastin’ a pension; in the throes of depression
    Or anywhere in between, you’re likely prone to the tension
    That ascends from the sad fact that we’re basically trapped
    By this broken invention that nature so hastily hatched

    We have to wake up for work; we have to get to class on time
    We have to spend the cash to get a pass to get past the line
    We have to be extra efficient with our time to clip the losses
    So we batten down the hatches extra tight but in the process

    We miss the sleekness of the sky as it meets with the clouds
    And the sun peeking out if and when it’s briefly allowed
    We miss seeing the crowd erupt when our team hits a jumper
    If we had one moment, we could have perceived it with wonder
    Instead we needed to run because that meeting was vital
    Or because we needed to eat before that evening's recital
    That we promised our girls we’d take them to, traffic’s moving slow
    So we drive like maniacs, crazy fast, but in doing so

    We miss the symphony of motors as they hum in unison
    We miss the howl of the wind when a cold front cruises in
    We lose the beauty of music as it seeps from the speaker
    Yet if we listen close enough, we don’t even need a receiver
    Never mind that, we have to catch the bus or the train
    Because trying to catch a taxi in this dump is insane
    And if we miss our appointment, we’ll have to pay to revisit
    Which wastes more time, but if we’d get away for a minute

    We’d take in the smell of the meats and the greens at our dinners
    We’d take in the scent of munitions when the spring battles winter
    We’d take in the fragrances of women trying hard to entice us
    Just imagine the opportunities we let fly by us
    Because we have to find someone to keep an eye on the kids
    Since we waited till the day before Christmas to buy all the gifts
    And when we got the wrong ones, their faces filled up with anger
    We’re so busy with our lives that we treat our children like strangers


    That’s the perfect indictment of this intensive plot and there’s
    A certain excitement present when we work against the clock
    But is it worth the bits of life we lose? In our busy plights we choose
    To focus on the blatant; we’re just fishing for the right excuse to
    Race an event, thinking that fate is our friend
    Yet no matter how hard we chase, it always waits at the bend
    And no matter the mark we make, it always fades in the end
    So why can’t we just relax and enjoy this place till we’re dead?

    Life is a beautiful thing; it never ceases to wow me
    Still the ways that we disregard its many treats is astounding
    It’s no wonder that we’re completely fried out as a group
    But that we have the chance to change it right now is the truth
    I’m not saying that we should be monks denying emotions
    I’m just saying, toss your watch, be alive for the moment
    Open your mind and just zone in, feel the life as it flows in
    The same way I did when I wrote this rhyme that I've posted


    Don't end up being the one who turns out despaired and spent
    Because you've lived your entire life but have no clue where it went

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  6. Insinerhate

    Insinerhate ... above blaze ...

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    vote Dic, on storytelling

    Dic, gripping, from the first line I was hooked to the entire verse, the passion you portrayed in this guy and his love for what he does is rare and original, flow was well on point, damn near perfectly written verse

    Tali, a highly original take here, there was nothing at all bad about this verse, your flow was on point and readable, the way you wrote through each event was professional grade, everything went together with great precision

    well done on both parts





    how are there 3 votes but I'm the only reply?
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  7. Vigil

    Vigil Im infinite consciousness

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    DIC - Talk about originality! A blues man and his horn. You took that relationship to a whole another level and made it believable, at least for me. I like the descriptive language, the rhyming as always was tight, and so was the flow. Your storytelling skills once again proved superior, and your imaginative writing added to the piece. I thought you laid out the scenario in a intriguing fashion and then you developed the storry pretty creatively. Not many writers can pull this kind of verse off, but I thought you did it with clairty and wit. On top of that, it was a very entertaining read, I was hooked from the first stanza.

    This fantasy glares ~ I dream we have a romantic affair
    As she sings to me, we both float and dance in the air
    She fits around my fingers in sweet perfection
    And with every button I push, she speaks a message
    Of deep affections and as the Sun sees our essence
    It's inspired to cause a horizon to peak reflections
    Surfing the clouds as she emerges the sounds of an angel
    Feeding me serenity from out of her halo
    ^this was my favorite part, your description, flow and storytelling skills are all in their form here.

    Tali - Your writing is so precise, and dead on, you've got a real nack for that kind of writing. Alot of writers lack a point of view most of the time but you don't. Right off the bat, I knew I was in for something great. The rhyming and flow work hand in hand in your writing, I still have trouble to do that in my own verses. It takes alot of skill and some time to write a verse that has very few flaws. Sometimes I rhyme just for the sake of it and it comes off dull and unimportant, thats why I like reading your verses, its good to measure up to your technique and form. Plus, I like your commentary on things, especially in this verse. I've written about the subject of time a few times but not with this kind of clarity, I usually take the metaphor approach because I think that's easier. The way you tackled this topic I think is alot harder to encapture, and on top of that, what you wrote is true. The writing itself, was sound, the flow was crisp, the rhyming was great too.

    Life is a beautiful thing; it never ceases to wow me
    Still the ways that we disregard its many treats is astounding
    It’s no wonder that we’re completely fried out as a group
    But that we have the chance to change it right now is the truth
    I’m not saying that we should be monks denying emotions
    I’m just saying, toss your watch, be alive for the moment
    Open your mind and just zone in, feel the life as it flows in
    The same way I did when I wrote this rhyme that I've posted
    ^word the fuck UP.

    This is a tough match, how can you compare a story with a topical? I think the RSTL should take a fundamental turn and have two kind of matches, story matches, and topical matches. The contestants can choose what field they want to join. Cause I think its unfair to equate a story with a verse and then have to decide on which one is better. It just doesn't make sense to me. I like reading battles because the verses are fucking great, especially in this case. But voting I think should be overlooked sometimes, and people should only provide commentary. I can't explain why one verse is better than the other, I feel bad if I vote for either verse because both of you deserve the top prize. Sometimes I don't vote not cause I'm lazy but just cause I don't wanna choose one verse over the other, especially a story over a topical or vice versa. But rules and rules.

    I'm gonna go with Tali's verse here. Although I enjoyed DIC's piece, I thought it was fantastic, Tali's verse hit a nerve in me. I'm fucking obsessed with time, I don't know where my highschool days went, I'm about to graduate, I used to remember being 12 and wishing to be 18, and now I'm 18 and I'm wishing to be 25. Lol, it fucking gets ridiculous sometimes. So I agreed with the content in Tali's verse, I was bumping my head the whole time, both because I knew where he was coming from and because the flow was dope. Don't get me wrong, DIC's creativity alone blew me away but Im biased towards topicals cause I can take something out of them. I learn by reading topicals, with stories, I'm just amazed and then its over. In a perfect league, both of you should get the top prize, in fact, I hope you guys get the same amount of votes. But again, rules are rules.

    vote - Tali.
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  8. SacriFICE

    SacriFICE TRUspeak

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    Yeah... this is a great match up, and a great finale for a tournament that lacked a lot in my opinion. A very good way to end it all right here.

    Dic: There isn't too much I can say about your story telling ability without being redundant and telling you what you obviously already know, considering this verse. One thing that I can say about this particular verse is that not only did you take the story aspect a step further and allow the story to carry itself, in and of itself, each piece of the story carried itself and allowed for a fully developed and self-reciprocating story that from beginning to end was very good. It's difficult to find too many flaws in this... in fact there really aren't any to speak of after reading a couple times. Your imagery in the beginning of the first long stanza was very good, loved that part the most out of the whole piece. Overall I feel like this was a very well written and original story with all the pieces it needed to be great.

    Tali: Holy shit... this is probably one of the better takes on this subject that I've read before, on top of that, as a topical, one of the very best I've ever read on this site, no exaggerations. One thing off the bat that you had over Dic's piece is flow, your flow was staggering and perfectly rhythmic. The fluidity in which you write is top notch by a long shot and allows the reader to really have fun with your piece. Each portion of this piece, each transition carried it's own, had it's own personality, then at the end, brought the entire piece together to make it one solid, very solid piece of work.

    This is tough to vote on because yes, it is topical vs story battle, however... in the end it comes down to how much I got out of each verse, which struck me the most, and basically which I enjoyed the most... and that has to be Tali's. Dic's story was great, but preference is indeed the deciding factor in a match up where both pieces are written this well.

    Good luck guys
    Vote: Tali.
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  9. Harvest

    Harvest medication

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    Vote: tali Rodriguez

    Dic: this was coo the dream sequence was the dopest part of the whole verse, full of detail. ima bit hmm on the whole metaphor for this though, like I mean you stuck with it really well it just this part
    “we're becoming aroused
    I jump on top licking spots,” to me it wasn’t realistic at all, for most of it the metaphor for his trumpet being a woman it was all sensual n romantic which was coo but making it sound like your eating it out really just comes up as bizarre.
    on that note though i did like this line

    “Looking for her by my side, she's disappeared to the stage
    I stare at this guy raping her with tears on my face”

    coo verse

    Tali: I love the structure at first I did a syllable count n I wasn’t sure if I was going to like the rhyme scheme cause of it being out but by the end I was like that was amazing. No lines seemed stretched n no word seemed force. It was warm n meaningful n the finishing last two lines were fire. The fact u did a whole topical about wasted time to a pic of missing children just amazed me more.
    Real tight drop impressed hope to see u in the league.

    g/l to both of u pz
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  10. Camarac

    Camarac A Beautiful Flow

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    WHOO!

    Dic: Maaaaaaaaaaaaan, you smashed that dream sequence to all hell. I definatly see this is the one you went for this week! You came out gunning, some great imagery in there, well narrated, good build up, you had the pace set, the transitions were tight and well executed, though I hated the name Mr. Sinister horn! Lol. Very original take on this one though man, that definatly shone out here, feeling this section the most:

    "This fantasy glares ~ I dream we have a romantic affair
    As she sings to me, we both float and dance in the air
    She fits around my fingers in sweet perfection
    And with every button I push, she speaks a message
    Of deep affections and as the Sun sees our essence
    It's inspired to cause a horizon to peak reflections
    Surfing the clouds as she emerges the sounds of an angel
    Feeding me serenity from out of her halo
    Destiny became her name that defines her importance
    Our lips touch and the music comes alive from the forces"

    Very well done my man.


    TaLi: Dizzamn you buried this one. I was a little skeptical after your verse last round, but you definatly delivered the goods here, you reminded me a lot of the rturn and sacrifice with this for some reason. I think its the way you turn the whole moral around at the end, but yeah - Sick piece. Greatly written, your wrters voice nailed it, at times simplistic, but that works well for you. Very natural sounding, and it connects witht he reader without really exerting itself, or becoming sort of overpowering to the point it becomes a lecture.

    "Instead we needed to run because that meeting was vital
    Or because we needed to eat before that evening's recital
    That we promised our girls we’d take them to, traffic’s moving slow
    So we drive like maniacs, crazy fast, but in doing so
    We miss the symphony of motors as they hum in unison
    We miss the howl of the wind when a cold front cruises in
    We lose the beauty of music as it seeps from the speaker
    Yet if we listen close enough, we don’t even need a receiver
    Never mind that, we have to catch the bus or the train
    Because trying to catch a taxi in this dump is insane
    And if we miss our appointment, we’ll have to pay to revisit
    Which wastes more time, but if we’d get away for a minute
    We’d take in the smell of the meats and the greens at our dinners
    We’d take in the scent of munitions when the spring battles winter
    We’d take in the fragrances of women trying hard to entice us
    Just imagine the opportunities we let fly by us"

    That section right there really nailed this for me, bringing it home strong, way to finish this whole shebang fellas! Great showings. Archive this or something NOW!

    My vote goes to TaLi!
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  11. Dr. Alias

    Dr. Alias You know who it is

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  12. MrMister

    MrMister Urizen

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    vote - dic

    Dic - DAMN man this here was just nice I loved it
    the love between a blues man and his sax was just nicely done
    I believed it and that is a hard thing to do flow was nice
    wordplay was sick only problem I had was the ending
    I mean I loved the fact that he beat the other dude for stealing his
    but the dream and his love combined made me want another ending
    but still I loved this piece Im kinda jealous I didnt write this one

    Tali - WoW I can see why you made it this far the whole piece was just
    so smoothly written and the combination of the format with the actual story
    was just so precise I was in awe
    The story itself was nice too felt like you touched on several topics in just one
    piece I loved it

    this his was a NICE real nice battle but in the end I enjoyed dic his piece more
    I loved Tali his piece but Dic just told me a real dope story with an ok ending
    while Tali just wrote to heaven
    and since I love me a story which I can enjoy Dic gets my vote
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  13. Got Life?

    Got Life? Resident Megalomaniac

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    Dic - I think this was a great take on the topic...although it's something i've seen you toy around with before with themes of jazz lounges and blues singers and things of that nature...regardless this was a very entertaining read and you delivered the story extremely well. I actually don't have many gripes with this piece with the exception of a few things here and there where it seems you forced the scheme a bit. Definitely the better of your two pieces this week.

    Tali - so uhm...your mechanics are fucking seamless...I understand why the hell you nit pick all the time and it's because you do the same thing to your own pieces and from a straight up mechanical stand point you're probably one of the best i've ever seen. outside of that everything in this piece really fit perfectly from beginning to end and this is one of my favorites i've read from you.

    vote = Tali

    Dic came with fire, but Tali was just on a whole different notch.
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  14. Dreamcaster

    Dreamcaster Welcome to My Mind

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    funny thing... I keyed this verse.. I actually spent time on the other one and I think it shows in the way the other one is narrated, but there's a new king now.

    congrats... now you can retire in style
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