LoL @ backwoods and vegas!!!!! That shit is hella harsh!!! Philly Titans is the only way to go, swishers and all that other shit is for those guys with small bags!!! get your weight up and roll up a Titan!!!! Leather wraps (thats what I call them) are the worse in my opinion. I only fuck with them when I don't have enough money to buy a Titan. Plus the 2 for 1 is a great deal. Titans and zig zags are the only way to go inless its out of a bong or a vaporizer.