Discussion in 'IntroSpectrum' started by reggie_jax, Jan 28, 2011.
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shit just got real..
state security forces are attacking journalists and trying their best to silence the spread of what is happening.. it looks like they just might be in over their heads
most of the arab peninsula is revolting, about fucking time.
but they'll only be replaced by other puppets.
call it anti-western poison, but i'm only being real.
israel should be worried ...
i understand the pessimism.... believe me i do
but i wouldn't be so quick to write off these causes as futile.. what's going on in the middle east right now seems to indicate that 'the people' are not nearly as powerless as the ruling elite would like them to believe.. all democracy really translates to is power in numbers. if successful, these movements could shape the course of history and act as a major turning point for the region..
what will be interesting to watch is if a former puppet dictatorship in the middle east successfully establishes a completely new government, how the u.s. will react? already we see a resistance to the idea of a new government from that old dried up twat hillary clinton and other official spokespeople for u.s. interests abroad.. yet they seem to know better than to openly support mubarak at this point.
Isreal aint gotta worry @ anything. They remember what happened last time.
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if anything, an attack on israel would essentially be suicide. not cause they're anything special on their own... but because they always have the US to back them up if shit really gets to that point.
but i don't know.. these protesters don't seem to be stupid. they want freedom. they're demanding a real democracy, not an islamic state or the destruction of israel.
mubarak must have signed a pact with luficer itself, the guy hasnt changed one bit in 25 years appearance wise.
this event is one of the worst things to happen to israel/the united states.
if other countries within the region follow suit there is the chance that these newly structured countries will try to oust all western forces too
it depends on the will of the people
if they organize in such a way the middle east will become another vietnam and the united states/israel will be plunged into a perpetual war that cant be won
its going to be interesting to see what happens in the next say 7 months
the united states will want to have a pro israeli/united states leadership installed in place of mubarak; but will they succeed at that? failing this, what then? what next?
the region is very close to slipping totally out of control for the west
this is what i'm wondering too. they've already got two open fronts in the middle east.. how far are they really willing to go to secure their influence in this region?
The thread title makes it sound like a disease.
it does seem to be quite contagious
the middle east is possibly on the verge of exploding. this event in egypt is coming right off the back of the green movement in iran. and whats happening right now now in egypt, is now already way beyond the tipping point. there is no going back for them from this. compound these things with a backdrop of foreign forces starting wars in the region and intense religiosity and heavily stratified societies without mobility and you have the elixir for something very large about to happen in history. the longer this drags on in egypt, as murabak and the ruling party attempt to hang on to their power, the more violent its going to get, the more fervor its going to kick up, the more it makes an extremist group latching on to the passions and anger of the people and installing itself more likely.
one thing is for sure, mubarak and anybody remotely similar to mubarak wont ever be accepted again after this.
i hope you're wrong about an extremist faction filling the power vacuum that inevitably ensues from all this.
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i think it all depends on how it plays out and specifically how violent it gets and for how long. these things can whip people up into a frenzy of sorts.
its almost hard to imagine what they're going to try next to protect this government... they've already sent the police after them, tried to scare them off with military might, and as of yesterday 'pro-mubarak supporters' started attacking people and throwing shit onto the crowds from rooftops, everything from satellite dishes to molotav cocktails, all with the military right there watching and letting it happen. its been a week since this shit started and the people are still refusing to budge..
these people are cleaning house...
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The people lost.
Mubarak actually ran Egypt, now Egypt will have a puppet controlled by France in power.
All these revolutions were stirred up by French intelligence.
LOL @ that
ultimate loss that america could suffer, far worse than any islamic dictatorship
losing our puppet to a bunch of frog eating freedom haters
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