RBL CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNEY - Mrjdm Vs Dethstryque

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  1. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    Good vote mayne no prob with it,I just want to point out that I went in on British people overall and used only one cleaver punch...

    "You gotcha swag snook when 2 rounds ago I body bagged you n mounted ya head on a spike of sodding bamboo
    I left you slumped n asleep when I "punched lumps in ya beef". It's embarassin...an American "Nottingham'd//knotting hammed" you!"

    ^^Nottingham is a famous place in England. Remember Robin Hood,and the Sheriff of Nottingham?

    "You called me gay? In AMERICA we blast dimes but CROCHET and GARDENING are England's favorite pastimes!"

    "Liftcha Queen with fiendish ammo n invade ya land at the head of legions
    Bytch if you fail to pledge obeisance? I'll blow up Parliament cock n blam ya soccer fans then shit in The English Channel while reciting THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE!!"
    ^^vicious disses on the British from the Queen to taking a dump in The English Channel while big uppin the USA

    "Dawg I'll bring heat tuh ya dome like Russian Fever n lop ya damn head off like fuckin cleavers
    Git chopped like sausage beef for accostin me cuz you're rap's British version of Justin Bieber!"
    ^^^ The only cleaver reference in the whole battle,followed with a shot at JDM's age and correlating it with Justin Bieber's age (they're close in age)

    "You Brits get abused if we rappin or scrappin bruh,I'm shaftin ya like asparagus plucked from the ruff
    So if we scrappin? You Hatton.I'm Pacman.If it's war? I'm America fuckin you up!!"

    ^^^More British disses and fighting metas plus historical references.

    "I'll dump the heat n feed clips n chopper blam this crumpet eatin tea sippin soccer fan
    My ock words launch this future Oxford Man tuh Auckland fam n wetcha like Aqua man with the raps I say
    You'll get dropped in a box if we box B,cuz you're a mere Khan//Amir Khan...I'm THE KING OF THE WORLD like CASSIUS CLAY"


    ^^^Another batch of creative British disses,British Empire disses,weapon use,super hero references,and British boxer vs American boxer (Amir Khan v Cassius Clay) references.


    This vote...by a knowledgeable,talented,intelligent rapper like RaZ no less...is why we need a Voting Guide. If he voted for JDM citing reasons other than the ones that he cited? Perfectly justifiable. Even if he voted for JDM for the current reasons? No biggie to me it's just text. Buuuut MY WHOLE VERSE has evidence that his opinion isn't accurate. My manz RaZ said:


    "Deth has a style that I constantly find troubling because the structure is built to be extremely ill, with the amount of multies and the potential to have amazing punchlines, although I think he went overboard here, he didn't seem to have the tenacity in the variety of his lines, through reading his verse is see a line I enjoyed then the following line would be very similar in basically saying the same thing, cleavers, knifes, macheties,

    You kicked his ass in every line and got repetitive after a while, I would've like to see some personals on British people or maybe some name plays..."

    All of my bars varied in content from historical to British city nameplays,I had only one cleaver reference,no machete references,and my verse was loaded with personals via references on JDM's nationality and his age,and even spun his diss on my love of multis by pointing out that not only did I body him in our first battle but his reference of Jay-Z gets flipped because Em smashed Hard Knock Life with SLIM SHADY LP's 99 debut AND Nas killed Jay using repeated multis on ETHER and Em killed Jay with multis on RENEGADE.

    Idk but maybe my manz RaZ never read my verse all the way through or at all,because he's too smart to have missed all the material which is the empirical opposite of the opinions he used to reach the vote he did.

    But his vote still stands...I won't challenge it. I just am pointing out that the reasoning behind the vote is flawed to some significant degree and that's another reason why we desperately need a Voting Guide.
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  2. Mrjdm998

    Mrjdm998 New Member

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    "I left you slumped n asleep when I "punched lumps in ya beef". It's embarassin...an American "Nottingham'd//knotting hammed" you!"

    ^^Nottingham is a famous place in England. Remember Robin Hood,and the Sheriff of Nottingham?"

    It's pronounced nottting-em not notting ham, for what it's worth.
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  3. Jai-Z

    Jai-Z Bangem, Jai

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    MrDjm highlightz and crtitique:
    vERY GOOD!
    FUNNY!
    The "Stryquez" line was nice.
    The "frat party" concept was good too... but you worded it really bland so it jst came out okay and really ddnt hit hard.

    You are leapz and boundz better than a few monthz ago. Good. Work on your versatility and conceptz as a writer.The whole martial artz and multz punchez were wack. Like if you woulda used different and more imaginative conceptz, you wouldve had a stronger verse.. but you hendered yourself wth the repetitive jokez.

    Deth Hightlightz and critque:
    This section was overlapped wth rhymez.. but dope! Ddnt like the follow up line though.
    I think Em had better rhyme scheme than Jay, but quality of lyrical content and metaphorz.. Jay-Z ate him. Good punch none the less.. excluding the Ether reference. That really wasnt needed, bcz Nas wrote Ether.
    ROFLZ!!! Blatant disrespect to his entire country. Lol

    I love a lot of your ideaz, but sometimez you over rhyme when you dont have too. Sometimez itz necessary to get the creative aspect of your punch across harshly, other timez.. you could really jst take about 6-7 wordz out and make the impact better, but Im not gonna fault you for your style of writing. Also like MrDJM OD off of Martial Artz/Multi humor, you had a few British jokez.

    Overall pretty good battle. I can understand DEthz a Martial Artz and Multiz head, and I can understand MrJDM is British on a personal aspect, but if you are going to do a personal.. using these flawz.. dont go overboard wth it.. bcz it makez ppl lose interest n your punchez as well as your verse n general. Therez other personalz to b said... SO SAY IT!

    Vote=Deth, he was more consistant and vast wth his punching direction.
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  4. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    British English and American english pronounciation differences...good lookin out dawg


    3-3 Tied up yet again...
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  5. TheIlliterate

    TheIlliterate Well-Known Member

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    Yeah man it's pronounced Notting-Ham in North America.

    Tense battle...
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  6. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    Yes that it is
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  7. Mrjdm998

    Mrjdm998 New Member

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    Was tehre any need to repost your entire verse and explain every single line? It's swaying and spam tbh.
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  8. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    It's neither swaying,posting,nor my entire verse. The contention that RaZ--and perhaps others too,as RaZ is an experienced intelligent lyricist--brought up is that I didn't fire personals or have variety in my bars. Not only was my verse chock full of personals and variety,when I quoted the bars that had them there were so many of them that you,MRJDM,felt I'd reposted my entire verse.That's saying a whole lot...my opponent in my battle felt that my whole verse was full of what one of the people who voted for him felt that my verse lacked.Again...this is why we need a Voting Guide.Allows us to correct unintentional factual errors which can very well decide the winner here and who competes for the RBL CHAMPIONSHIP title.

    Now I'm not going to challenge RaZ's vote--which I could do and I have justification to do--for 3 reasons:

    1) Like I said,I don't think that RaZ was being malicious.I think he voiced his honest opinion,but certain facts in his opinion are incorrect. I still think he thinks MRJDM won and I'm cool with that.

    2) There was somewhat of a voting controversy in my last battle with MRJDM.The polls showed 4 votes for me,3 for MRJDM,but the posted votes and explanations showed the opposite (I believe). Had I seen that earlier,I would have protested that straightaway,because that's clearly an error.However,2 uncounted votes from voters (unsolicited votes from unsolicited voters) that I received clearly told me that these persons felt that I won and broke down why they thought so...and they said they posted on the battle.Neither of their votes or posts were present. If they had been? I would have won our previous battle anyway 5-4. One of the people who thought I won was LP,just to be specific.

    3) This battle isn't over yet,there are votes still to come...and ultimately? I'm gonna give MRJDM a threematch anyway in the Emcee Battle Arena and we'll probably square off in the RBL weight class tourney too.


    Swaying,by definition,is actively persuading a person from a different opinion or no opinion on a specific subject matter to an opinion more in alignment with what the "swayer" wishes that person or persons to have. I have never and will never done such a thing. My reputation is SPOTLESS in this area. I even insisted that someone IN THIS BATTLE go on ahead and vote for you when he was hesitant to do so even though he thought you won (and that person knows who he is). I insist on HONEST KNOWLEDGEABLE votes,regardless of whether I agree with the conclusion or not.RaZ's vote actually has some real flaws in it and could be reversed by a challenge. I already said that I won't do that,and that alone should suffice to prove that I don't sway.
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  9. Mrjdm998

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    Clearly a lot of the references are inferior personals to what I used. My personals were aimed directly at you. Saying you'll shit in the English channel is NOT a personal at all. How does it insult me? If say you lived in Texas and I said "I'll go to the US and shit in all the great lakes", that's not a personal. I don't live near the English channel and the quality of water tehre doesn't offend me. The queen, again, isn't a hard hitting personal. Why should it be? If I said I'll powerslam Michelle Obama, you wouldn't be like "WOWW that was harsh!", it wouldn't offend you at all. Saying I'm the british verison of justin bieber is not personal in the slightest. They were well executed bars in how they were written, but they weren't great personals. I don't want to sound egotistical, but I had more personals throughout my verse and they were more personal to you.

    However it's HIS opinion. I can understand if you think he was being dishonest or malicious, but you even said he wasn't.

    Oh? Well I took my laptop down to the local old peoples home and they felt my verse was better. They tried to post, no idea what happened So should it be 345-5? Obviesly no. If they didn't vote, they didn't vote.


    Well:

    In an actual battle do people get to go over to the judges and explain there punchlines (No QP)? No.
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  10. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    Your whole verse was personals focused on my love of multis and martial arts. In the number and power of direct traditional personals department on those two subject matter alone? Clearly you won.In the number of variety of power punches and punchlines thrown,metaphors vocab wordplay,rhyme scheme,multis,creativity visavis punch content and punch style etc.? I clearly dominated.However,dissing a person's country of origin is also madd standard and is reflected on the person themselves,and in this area I clearly dominated without any sort of question. If you said you'd crap in the Great Lakes,powerslam Michelle Obama,kill every baseball fan in the USA (baseball is usually called America's Pastime/Sport),invade my country,blow up Congress...all while singing GOD SAVE THE QUEEN? Yeah,that's definitely being offensive to my country and me,even though I expect such things in battles. Cuz you trampled my country with disrespect.

    "...this is what you see elsewhere/In some country overseas without free healthcare..." Henry Bowers to Dirtbag Dan.<--That was a personal rooted in dissing one's nationality and national pride,and it hit hard. EURGH did something similar to ILLMAC in their battle.

    RaZ's opinion would be subject to a Category Challenge,not a Vote Challenge. My disagreement with him would be focused on the specific categories in question. If the challenge was successful and the change in categories were successful enough (on RaZ's vote breakdown) to change the vote itself? So be it but that would be unlikely...and the vote wouldn't swing from a vote to you to a vote for me.It'd swing to a TIE vote on our battle. Only a VOTE CHALLENGE can reverse a vote.

    That joint about the senior citizens home was hilarious,but inconsequential. If anything,the previous voting disparity cries out for the need of the Voting Guideline yet again.

    As for what happens in actual battles? In actual paid battles--and this IS a paid battle text tourney--the judges already have categories and guidelines that the rappers are aware of.The RBL is the only paid tourney or battle that I've ever heard of that doesn't have guidelines. Even the battles in the local clubs down here in the LBC like THE VAULT have Guidelines to prevent cheating,etc. So the reason why you don't see too many people challenging votes is because everybody already learned from the "HARRY FROM JUMPOFF" experiences and don't allow votes to be overruled and do have consistent guidelines in some shape or form. If you watch Grindtime and KOTD and even URL battles,a pattern emerges and from the pattern you can divine the Guidelines.
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  11. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    3-3 tie,we need votes. Thanks.
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  12. Mrjdm998

    Mrjdm998 New Member

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    Don't you get docked a vote for posting past the deadline?
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  13. Jayalias

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    I'm pretty sure this was deth, but I cant see his IP address anymore.. lucky...

    Vote doesn't count...
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  14. Mrjdm998

    Mrjdm998 New Member

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  15. J o o k

    J o o k Win your battles before they’ve even been fought.

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    Jayalias doesn't count with one fucking post.
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  16. J o o k

    J o o k Win your battles before they’ve even been fought.

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    I'll start with the killer bars murk you without mis-used time
    So call this verse a pregnancy test, it makes the result clear with just a few lines
    ok

    (1)998 gave us Jay's Volume 2 and Aquemini
    But Deth's like "Fuck that, Can-I-Bus is the best thing I've heard in my life listen to the multi rhymes!"
    You probably own underwear with "real lyricist" woven into the back of it
    And I bet you wear a varsity jacket which says I heart multi-syllabics on the fabric
    You window licking spastic when you die your casket
    Will have "single syllables are for faggits" carved deep into the cheap plastic
    Only thing worse than his multi obsession's his love for mixed martial arts
    He falls asleep thinking about UFC and Royce Gracie's retirement split his heart apart
    fuck no @ all that


    Deth's daydreaming of fighting when he's relaxing eating or penning his queer basic flows
    The only time he's not thinking of MMA's when he's putting guys in rear naked chokes
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    This wack opponent can't trouble me I'll leave you torn apart Deth
    I'm twice as good man I'm, double D like a porn stars chest
    Just 'cus you've been text battling all yah life doesn't make you a timeless veteran
    'Cus even though you have a few gold bars you just create trash like a reverse Midas complexion
    A mic you can use? That was a fuckin mindless invention
    Bruv, nobody wants you to spit like a chick with a hepatitis infection
    garbage @ all that


    Nobody gives a fuck about your kickboxing 'cus if someone decided to pull several ratchets
    You'd resemble the tragic soldier who blew his brains out in Full Metal Jacket
    eh

    How long Deth's got left? Time's depleting
    This'll be the worst result for a D since the 09 Lions season
    good idea, terrible wording

    Don't have to dump the clip like deleted scenes say night with the straight right
    Actually I might even just spare you because of how much I fucking hate Stryques
    garbage


    My verses smack you hard D I'll cave yah skull with a bat harshly
    Now you're getting humiliated by my pen like you passed out at a frat party
    again, good idea, terrible wording


    Because no matter how many martial arts he says he can use to kick butt
    Listing Asian striking techniques will never create a sick punch
    Fuck a hammer and nine I'll batter this guy with masterful lines
    Now get off the fucking internet and go tend to your Canibus shrine
    weak ass closer

    M, keep at it. You need better structure and rhyme scheme. Your material needs better wording as well.




    Chap look! One phat hook collapsed ya flat on ya back shook n bangs ya mane like I mag clapped ya hat til ya cap's cooked!
    In a scrap rook...all ya rhymes get fucked n murdered like I had snuff scene sex with ya rap book!
    You gotcha swag snook when 2 rounds ago I body bagged you n mounted ya head on a spike of sodding bamboo
    I left you slumped n asleep when I "punched lumps in ya beef". It's embarassin...an American "Nottingham'd//knotting hammed" you!
    My spit slits n shits on you like ya body shampoo is potty pan poo mixed with daggered quips so hazardous
    That you couldn't come back from Deth if Jesus of Nazareth taught you the Secrets of Lazarus
    Punches make you see stars like I plastered this bastard with brass knuckles crafted with asterisks
    JDM? I Casper'd that wakk nerd with wrath served tuh blaze yer wig like clapped nines
    You called me gay? In AMERICA we blast dimes but CROCHET and GARDENING are England's favorite pastimes! (link)
    You're like a mule on a Claymore cuz ya ASS MINE! If you're Jay-Z? I'm Eminem sendin blades
    Tuh ETHER ya weak verbs til ya grin gitz sprayed by RENEGADE pen grenades!
    Apply ya blood like warpaint cream n cammo lit ya team with beams then BLAMMO
    Liftcha Queen with fiendish ammo n invade ya land at the head of legions
    Bytch if you fail to pledge obeisance? I'll blow up Parliament cock n blam ya soccer fans then shit in The English Channel while reciting THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE!!
    Dawg I'll bring heat tuh ya dome like Russian Fever n lop ya damn head off like fuckin cleavers
    Git chopped like sausage beef for accostin me cuz you're rap's British version of Justin Bieber!
    Jab n double cross you like a plus sign and a crucifix! You're buyin the farm for battlin me!
    Your punches lack heat...but my hooks are fire like the spiraling arms of galaxies!!
    You Brits get abused if we rappin or scrappin bruh,I'm shaftin ya like asparagus plucked from the ruff
    So if we scrappin? You Hatton.I'm Pacman.If it's war? I'm America fuckin you up!!
    I'm a problem man! I'm roofin yo ass for woofin that trash,and if you keep on talkin man
    I'll dump the heat n feed clips n chopper blam this crumpet eatin tea sippin soccer fan
    My ock words launch this future Oxford Man tuh Auckland fam n wetcha like Aqua man with the raps I say
    You'll get dropped in a box if we box B,cuz you're a mere Khan//Amir Khan...I'm THE KING OF THE WORLD like CASSIUS CLAY


    (link): for some reason the link didn't work but if you Google England's Top 10 Favorite Pastimes,Gardening and Crochet are among them.That's soooo gay,lol.

    Deth, I wasn't really feeling any of your lines, some shit didn't even make sense dawg. Keep at it. Less focus on flow and more on substance.



    Vote - M
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  17. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    Thanks for the votes guys! MRJDM is up now,4-3. Lololol I think that's the first time that anyone said that my bars didn't make sense to them. Could you specify which bars were confusing?
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  18. Extreme Venom

    Extreme Venom Well-Known Member

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    This battle wasnt as good as it couldve been... when i read deths verse i knew he'd lose.. he didn't take time on this verse he was ryhming dumb shit like:

    "My spit slits n shits on you like ya body shampoo is potty pan poo mixed with daggered quips so hazardous"

    :scared:


    Really deth? daggered quips & potty pan poo? =|


    Then I read Mrj's shit and I was reconsidering voting for deth but it seemed Mr998 only needed to warm up, he sputtered a little bit of flame on this line:

    "Deth's daydreaming of fighting when he's relaxing eating or penning his queer basic flows
    The only time he's not thinking of MMA's when he's putting guys in rear naked chokes"

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    then he sputtered out again & i'm like thats all he had? then he released these zingers:

    "How long Deth's got left? Time's depleting
    This'll be the worst result for a D since the 09 Lions season
    Don't have to dump the clip like deleted scenes say night with the straight right
    Actually I might even just spare you because of how much I fucking hate Stryques
    My verses smack you hard D I'll cave yah skull with a bat harshly
    Now you're getting humiliated by my pen like you passed out at a frat party
    Because no matter how many martial arts he says he can use to kick butt
    Listing Asian striking techniques will never create a sick punch
    Fuck a hammer and nine I'll batter this guy with masterful lines
    Now get off the fucking internet and go tend to your Canibus shrine"




    Battle done

    Vote= Mrjdm998
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  19. J o o k

    J o o k Win your battles before they’ve even been fought.

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    Yeah I agree with Venny.

    Deth I pm'd you the answer to your question.
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  20. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    Thanks for the pm man I read it and responded. MRJDM is up 5-3
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