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Discussion in 'Ladies Lounge' started by SeeSon, Jan 7, 2010.

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  1. tight-eyes

    tight-eyes Such a F*cking Lady!

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    *sigh* And around and around we go. I spoke my mind and said exactly what I meant. Like I said, whatever you need to tell yourself. I'm done with this silliness.

    @ thedream: BBG already said that men were also objectified in porn, just not in the same way. You pretty much just provided an example for his point, you didnt negate it.
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  2. thedream233

    thedream233 Thrillmatic

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    For someone who says they agree with everything he said, you sure didnt seem to read it. His point was that women were objectified and degraded the most. My point was that men were objectified and degraded the most.
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  3. lol@men are exploited far more because they dont get an interview
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  4. tight-eyes

    tight-eyes Such a F*cking Lady!

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    I understood that, sugar plum. My point was that your examples only served to highlighted some of the ways that men are degraded (which Brit already noted), but didn't provide ways in which their objectification/degradation is worse.

    Unless you consider those examples (the faces of some male porn stars aren't shown and/or they aren't given the opportunity for an interview) worse than when female porn stars are "physically and verbally abus[ed], calling her a whore, bitch, slut, treating her as simply an object, treating her throat like a vagina until her eyes water and she gags and almost throws up..gangs of men taking turns to cum all over her face, in her mouth, destroying her asshole"... then, yeah... in my opinion, your examples only proved his point.
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  5. RapCritik

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    The women in those tapes - which you've obviously watched yourself (I'm sure you haven't actually experienced it) - those women were compensated. The "submissive slut" has her market in the adult entertainment industry just as the "dominatrix" does.
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  6. Ignorant

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    Face it, man... it's pointless to even continue... you can't reason with someone who already has her mind made up... if they say the sky is pink, when it's blue... let them be... the sky is pink.

    Women in porn are helpless victims and the mere act of objectionable sex is degradation... especially because sex should be loving, soft and gentle.

    I got it, tights?
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  7. tight-eyes

    tight-eyes Such a F*cking Lady!

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    I understand what you're saying (and using that logic, anyone could argue that anythin in this world "has a place", even child pornography. But I digress.) I'm not arguing what "has a place", I'm only defining what I believe it is (degrading), never made a statement about what it should/shouldnts be or what does/nt have a place.

    Is (a part of) your point that the compensation makes the acts less/non-degrading?
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  8. tight-eyes

    tight-eyes Such a F*cking Lady!

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    Ignorant, wrong as usual. I never said that dumb shit, thats you Reading your bias into my words.

    Why dont you sit this one out and let the non-comprehensionally challenged folks chat, k boo?
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  9. skandelous_lala

    skandelous_lala back from the dead

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    if he wants to throw dollar bills at a bitch throw them at me. shit.
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  10. Ignorant

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    Still with the insults, I see.

    I could get upset and call you a hypocrite for calling me a "bitch" a few posts up since you have so often protested that word (I guess only when it's directed at women), but I won't.
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  11. Ignorant

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    Would you be willing to "work" for it, though?


    Like put on the skimpy outfits and make your booty clap.


    I hear women say that, but they either have problems with doing the freaky things that strippers do or they don't know how... it's not necessarily about throwing dollars, but about rewarding that fantasy.


    I would do that to my wife, but she has problems with being a freak sometimes.
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  12. Superman70

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    my girl took me to the strip club and pretty much insisted i get lapdances while she watched.
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  13. Ignorant

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    I like girls like that...
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  14. Baby Loca

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    we get mad cuz damm hez our man. shyt. guys be calling us hoes but in da real life guyz are hoes. and were the pimps
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  15. thedream233

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    It is WORSE for the men, because everything you described as far as the female "abuse" is all ACTING. Its part of the show.

    What I described about it being almost impossible for a male porn star to make a name for himself is REAL.
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  16. RapCritik

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    Yes, my point was that because the porno actress was there by choice and was paid, it makes the act less degrading. If she was forced to do it against her will, then it's degrading.

    I understand you're a proud woman tho.

    But....some proud people, men and women, would find cleaning toilets at McDonald's degrading.

    Under your terms, "degrading" is anything other than planting your own veggies and raising your own goats. My point is people do what they have to to survive in our society. Men & Women.

    Without porn, those women gagging on cock would have fewer choices. They might resort to prostitution, where they'd be more exposed to sexually transmitted diseases.

    And by the way, I wouldn't argue child pornography has a place. The child is there against their will and besides is too young to consent.
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  17. Ignorant

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    This comes closer to my definition of "degradation" than anything written in this thread thus far... however, "force" would fall under "rape" more than anything.

    Ultimately, sex, no matter how brutal, offensive, objectionable or disgusting the act, is never "degrading," because it is a natural and necessary event for HUMANS... anything else is a matter of taste.

    This is what Tight-Eyes and BritBoiGee do not understand.

    They're arguing taste because those acts often depicted in porn offends them.
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  18. RapCritik

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    Interesting. But what if a woman approached you in a club and said she wanted to fuck you. You were attracted so you tried to introduce yourself but she put her finger over your lips and said, "No names". She then took you to the ladies room and sat you on the toilet and put a bag over your head. She rode you and busted a nut, then get got up and left before you finished.

    She didn't pay you.

    Nor did she physically force you into the bathroom and pump your dick hard with a pump....it wasn't rape.

    But ...would you feel at all lesser than what you felt before the experience?

    I think sex can be degrading sometimes, even without rape.

    Both people should have an understanding of what's going on and what the other person wants. If not then one person can potentially be degraded. ... but you don't agree do you.
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  19. tight-eyes

    tight-eyes Such a F*cking Lady!

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    Do you believe that the women who participate in those "acts" arent looked down upon in "real" life, because of it?
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    tight-eyes Such a F*cking Lady!

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