Exactly... That's my point. I'm not saying that single legs are ineffective. Obviously, you have to go with what your given or you're a retard. You can't go into a combination saying I'm gonna do this/this/this and this cuz you have to work based on their reaction and the angles you have to work with. My whole point is, I find there are way more opportunities to get the takedown with the double than there is with the single.... I usually faint and see how they react off the faint and work from there. Sometimes it ends up leg kick into a clench. It always depends on what your given. And again, TO ME, I feel the double leg ends up the choice for takedown. I never go straight in for a double either. That's just ignorant. It has to be set up. I don't go straight jujitsu. We spar with hands (not full contact) 'n kicks but the goal is to end up on the ground. Obviously, not the full effect because a REAL kick to the thigh opens up A LOT of different options as do REAL punches to the face. But again, when I train it's never just clench 'n try to find ways to bring them down. That's boring to me. I much rather have everything set up more realistically.