question about singing/being too loud

Discussion in 'Audio Help & Tips' started by RecordingNow..., Mar 2, 2006.

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  1. RecordingNow...

    RecordingNow... New Member

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    how do you not peak out when singing loud? you just turn the gain down? then boost it? or?
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  2. doctah

    doctah I know how to do that...

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    It's called mic technique. Stop singing so loud.
    ...and/or compress on the way in.
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  3. Arcane

    Arcane Alcoholic Roadie

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    pad switch, use it
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  4. styll_amz

    styll_amz New Member

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    whats a pad switch
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  5. Arcane

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    look on the mic/pre...there should be a switch that says 0 on one side and like -15 or -20 on the other

    that's the pad switch, it lowers the volume
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  6. Fame-S

    Fame-S New Member

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    not all mics have em. i've never switched mine to -15 or -20 or watever it is on my mic. i jus try to set my gain at a good amount and try to keep a consistant volume. thats with rapping tho...maybe its harder to do so with singing.
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  7. Xabiton

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    compression on the way in should fix the issue. this is what hardware compressors are for
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  8. Arcane

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    hardware compressors are not only for compressing to tape....
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  9. Xabiton

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    im aware of this but im saying this is one of the main uses for a compressor. never said only i just said thats what they are for
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  10. Arcane

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    ehh, a pad works way better than compressing to tape

    especially if you're not sure about the settings for your compression
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  11. Xabiton

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    im not saying dont use pad im saying use both. i get what ur sayin but i have no issues with over compression lol. as long as it works it works
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  12. Arcane

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    yeah i guess...but once it's there it's impossible to fix if it's recorded that way
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  13. Xabiton

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    yea but if it sounds good why not
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  14. TruMentillz

    TruMentillz SampleRapist

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    i cant see arcane coming back on that one...ooooh...lmao...

    j/k
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  15. Arcane

    Arcane Alcoholic Roadie

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    probably be cause it's true
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  16. Apexx

    Apexx Engineer / Club Promoter

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    compress then re-tune your highs since compression ALWAYS cuts highs. Don't change the way you sing, that changes your timbre and attenuation in your notes which = bad idea. For the same reason that mumbling while recording and turning the vol up doesn't get the same results as shouting and turning the volume down. Same vol - WAY different sound.
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  17. Arcane

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    wait...what? it does? since when?
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  18. RePerCuZionZ

    RePerCuZionZ Square-Wave Creator

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    since when did a compressor act as a filter
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  19. Apexx

    Apexx Engineer / Club Promoter

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    Ever since compressing decreased your volume on your high side and raised it on your low side which cuts the shit out of any detail in your highs and raises your vol in your lows (you know..where your bass rolls off and slides toward "mud"?) and makes your voc's sound overly boomy and "filmy".

    Don't believe me? Mix down one of your tracks with some heavy compression, vs the original take without any compression then bust out a spectral analyzer and look at the difference with the same peak dB's. Frequencies present in the uncompressed aren't present in the post compressed at the identical output vol. Of course you know..the volume in your voice comes soley from the frequencies your vocal cords generate. So when cutting (or adding) volume from your vocals, what do you think it's really turning up and down?

    Dont get me wrong, I use compression on the regular, but you can't expect anything you do adjust one level of anything to not require tuning to compensate for what you're cutting. That's the basics of tuning, isn't it? This works for the same reason your mic has more accuracy without a 10dB pad in and then turning the line-in up 10dB's vs. with no pad and turning line-in down 10dB's. Mics, tuning software, etc only cut frequencies which translate to volume. Nothing more, nothing less.
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  20. Arcane

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    um....right

    if that's what compression did, no one would ever use a compressor

    are you sure you're not using a de-esser, sidechain (like the waves c1 which has a built in EQ as well), or multiband compressor? lmao because that's the only way what you're saying would happen, and only if you heavily compressed the high end and didnt touch the low end

    all the tracks on my page were heavily, heavily compressed, and trust me, none of the high end information was boosted

    besides, you usually want the bass to be 'louder' then the top end due to fletcher munsen curves and the fact that your ears don't have a linear frequency response to different frequencies
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