You're missing the point ID. What Ghet is pointing out is that Black people have only been able to climb out of their pits because White people supported them. If White people had not supported them, Black people would never have climbed out of their pit. If you don't believe me, look at Native Americans. Whites never helped Native Americans (for the most part). At least not like they did the Blacks. But Blacks want to pretend that they did it on their own. Blacks like to lie to themselves and pretend that they conquered "Whitey" and they didn't. White people were helping them all along. The Underground Railroad existed because Whites were risking their lives AND their reputations (in a time when reputation was everything) to save Blacks. There was a civil war fought over slavery (of course their were other issues at hand). But do Black people want to acknowledge this? Fuck no! They want to pretend they did it themselves. If Black people want to pretend they can stand on their own two . . . then let them and stop helping them. They refuse to acknowledge that "Whitey" isn't the enemy and "Whitey" helped free them from other "Whiteys" then why bother? Maybe this will help: One day a black man was walking along, whistling . . . Along came a group of angry racist craqqers and they beat that poor black man. They beat him bad. After they beat him, they threw him into a well. Time passed and the sun rose over the well and that poor black man lay there bleeding and baking under the mid-day sun. Suddenly a white face appeared over the opening of the well and he yelled down, "Wait there! I seen what happened but I was outnumbered and couldn't help. I've come to help you though, they left a moment ago. Here's a rope . . . quick, grab on." He dropped a rope to that poor Black man and pulled him up out of the well. Then he helped that poor Black man over to a stream, washed his wounds and gave him an extra pair of his own clothes, gave him a razor to shave and food to eat. After the Black man got his strength back, he thanked the white man to his face and then went back to his town and told all the other Black people that he was beaten by Whiteys and thrown into a well and that by his OWN strength he managed to climb out. The other Blacks celebrate this pitiful fool and proclaim him their leader and nobody acknowledges the man with the rope. Nobody asked the Black man where he got his fancy "whitey" clothes. That's what Ghet is saying. And you keep replying with, "I don't expect them to thank me." That isn't the point.