Parallel Universes

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  1. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    That's... actually very interesting. (The use of Mick Foley helped a lot too.)

    I think I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure I understand how it relates to sexual orientation. This is some Jung psychology we're on if I'm understanding it correctly. (Though I did not watch the videos, I am familiar with what happened in the second one. Keeping in mind that though he was playing a character, he was also doing it within the archetype of a dark rival, one with feminine qualities.)

    I can see the three fold dynamic of male, female, and child going on. We have, metaphorically, the golden sun as our father and the Earth as our mother. It is here in between that we humans exist. We come from the Earth, and as our mother, it gives us food and nourishment. The Sun father however gives us light and direction. It is within a healthy combination between these that we thrive.

    Now, there is a certain quality that divides people. Which is the desire to be motivated and move forward. We all come from our Earth mother, but there are those of us that choose to seperate. We become individuals and realize our own power and take up the mantle of our Sun father. Those that don't are those that give up, and continue to suck at our mother Earth's teats.

    And why not for either case? Why not become an individual and harnass the power we have? Likewise, why not be hugged and snuggled and catered by our mothers? The engulfment you speak of, as I'm understanding it, is essentially an extreme case of being a "mama's boy." In which we never want to leave our mother's embrace.

    How this relates to lesbianism though is... well.. here is the thing. Each human is composed of feminine and masculine qualities. It's up to us to maintain a balance as well as an identity. A lesbian is like any other human being and will express this balance as they see fit within how they are capable. (Some of us can't fully express ourselves as we've yet to become fully realized humans.) This applies to all humans, of course. Some lesbians are very much about this engulfment you speak of. Yet I know one in particular who is all about a strap on, and whose favorte porn is cum on a woman's face. (She is very hyper-masculine.)

    I think though the idea of seeking engulfment is more related to Peter Pan Syndrome than anything else. It's the refusal to grow up, the refusal to accept responsibility, and the need to be protected and shielded by others. It's giving up our own power in order to be safe.

    Does that make sense?
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  2. lyricalpriest

    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    I think we just want to experience and not have to actually be involved.
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  3. Radium

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    bc for humanity as a greater entity to work it must have a way to produce autonomous agents.

    i think that a lack of engulfment avoidance is the fear of autonomy. therefore a very core component of engulfment avoidance is ultimately the question of safety.

    thus humanity would need to have engulfment agents that were tasked to effectively create safety to produce the autonomous agents that it needs to have to exist

    the question then ultimately is why do some fear autonomy and some do not.

    that is, why can some never achieve engulfment avoidance?

    this is an extremely important question to me.

    yeah the studs/butches are really interesting. i wanted to ask you particularly about the touch me not studs/stone cold butches. i thought that they may actually lack any kind of sexuality and that they use women as engulfment zones (like mankind and the urn) but lack the engulfment avoidance necessary to break away from women and seek out men. thus they manifest engulfment avoidance passively/privately by taking on the characteristics of men instead of seeking them out externally

    that is they achieve the urge to engulf through women externally and achieve the urge to avoid engulfment internally as a pseudo man. the sex that they have w women is actually a form of masturbating the pseudo man personality that they create as a way to achieve the engulfment avoidance that they can only access privately and not externally
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  4. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    I think you would be very interested in the writings of Jung. Though, to be sure, like Frued he was a pioneer of psychology, none of his work is taken seriously anymore. Except either as a layman explanation, or in the use of writing fiction. (His archetypes come in much handy for writing and interpreting fiction.)

    In this case, you're referring to a female human who denies her own masculinity and seeks to cover it with even further feminine values, creating a severe imbalance.
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  5. Radium

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    and yet you have some unfinished questions that i would like to know your answer to

    for one why do you think some can never achieve engulfment avoidance? and what ways do you think this can ultimately manifest in us?
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