Pagan Roots of Christmas - Honoring Satan

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  1. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    Be not ye afraid of them: remember YHWH, which is great and terrible, and fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your houses.-Nehemiah 4:14

    Article taken from: http://truthseeker-archive.blogspot.com/2010/12/pagan-roots-of-christmas.html

    What does Santa Claus and decorating trees have to do with Biblical Christianity?

    What is Christmas really about?​

    Santa Claus, gift-giving, mistletoe, decorating trees, yule logs, and most other Christmas traditions have absolutely no basis in the Bible whatsoever. The Bible does not even instruct us to celebrate the birth of Yahshua the Messiah (aka 'Jesus'), much less tell us that his birthday was December 25th. So what are the real origins of this "holy day"?

    The holiday known as 'Christmas' originates from pagan winter solstice celebrations, and was "Christianized" by the Roman Catholic Church. And there is a much darker side to "Santa" and Christmas than may appear at the surface.

    Ancient Babylonian and Roman Winter Solstice Celebrations​

    In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast. In ancient Rome, a winter festival called 'Saturnalia' was celebrated from December 17th to December 23rd in honor of their god Saturn. It was a once-a-year time to indulge in feasting, drinking, the exchanging of gifts, and merrymaking in general.

    Yule​

    The pagan peoples of northern Europe also celebrated the winter solstice in a holiday known as 'Yule', in which they honored their pagan gods and celebrated "for a fertile and peaceful season", including fertility sacrifices. Trees and other greenery decorated the inside of homes in order to remind people of the soon return of Spring. It was customary to light a candle to encourage the sun god--and the sun--to reappear the following year.

    The traditions from Yule heavily influence Christmas, including the use of greenery indoors, the Yule log, and kissing under mistletoe.

    Yule Log​

    The Yule log was the center of the trunk of a tree that was dragged to a large fireplace where it was supposed to burn for twelve days. From this comes the twelve days of Christmas.

    Mistletoe​

    The source of "kissing under the mistletoe" is pagan Celtic-Norse rituals and mythology.

    Mistletoe was considered by the pagan Druids to be a 'sacred' plant having medicinal qualities and mysterious supernatural powers, especially helping fertility. The custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual. [1]

    Mistletoe was also used by the pagan Romans in fertility rites.

    Decoration of Trees and use of Greenery Indoors​

    The decoration of homes with greenery during the dead of winter was done as a reminder that the warmer spring and summer months would soon eventually come.

    At the winter solstice, the Romans decorated their homes with evergreen trees and boughs of laurel. The pagan Northern Europeans used holly, ivy and bay for both decoration and in their religious rites at their solstice observance. Hollyberries were believed to be a "food of the gods." In northern Europe, evergreen branches were used as means to "ward off evil spirits." The use of the Christmas tree also goes back to the early Druidic practice of tree worship.

    Carrolling​

    In Rome, Saturnalia was celebrated by groups of people singing in the streets. This is the origin of 'carrolling'.

    Gift-giving​

    Many people associate gift-giving with the wise men and their presents to the young 'Jesus', but this practice is also of pagan origin. The Romans exchanged "good luck" presents during Saturnalia, in which the wealthy gave gifts to the poor in honor of the "golden age of liberty when the god Saturn ruled the known world". [2]

    Church of Rome renames Saturnalia festival "Christ's Mass"​

    Saturnalia was popular among the pagan Romans in the early years of the Roman Catholic Church following when Constantine decreed his version of 'Christianity' as the official religion of Rome. In order to make it easier for the pagans to convert to Christianity as well as further paganize and corrupt the true Israelite religion, the Romish Church simply encouraged the continued observance of Saturnalia, but ascribed 'Christian' meanings to the pagan rituals, and gave the festival the name "the Mass of Christ" or "Christ's Mass." Instead of the birth of the Sun god, this was now the 'birth of Christ.'

    Puritans Rejected 'Christmas' - 'Holiday' suppressed from 16th to 19th Centuries

    The Puritans, citing its pagan origins, believed Christmas should not be observed. Prominent Puritan William Prynne, during the time of king Charles I, wrote:

    "Our Christmas lords of Misrule, together with dancing, masques, mummeries, stage-players, and such other Christmas disorders, now in use with Christians, were derived from these Roman Saturnalia and Bacchanalian festivals; which should cause all pious Christians eternally to abominate them" (The Book of Christmas Folklore, p. 8).[3]

    The observance of Christmas was made illegal in Scotland in the 16th century. It was also made illegal in many parts of the United States in the early days of the nation, mainly in New England states such as Massachusetts where the Puritan influence was strong.

    Due to the influence of the Puritans in Britain and the United States, celebration of Christmas was suppressed in the Anglo-Saxon world from the 16th through the 19th century. Over the last century, due mainly to mass media influence, Christmas observance has exploded in popularity.
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    Yahshua the Messiah actually born in the Fall​

    The Bible provides evidence which shows that December 25 is the incorrect date for Yahshua the Messiah's birth. From the biblical description, his birth actually occurred in the Fall, most likely September.

    It is very unlikely that He was born in December, since the Bible records shepherds tending their sheep in the fields on that night. In Luke 2:8 it is written: "And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night."

    YHWH commands "Learn not the way of the heathen."

    In the Bible, YHWH sternly warns his people time and time again to have nothing to do with paganism, which is idolatry and worship of false gods.

    The prophet Jeremiah instructed the Israelites to not cut down trees and adorn them as the heathens:

    "Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not." (Jeremiah 10:2-4)


    Who is really celebrated at winter solstice observances?​

    The ancient pagan winter solstice festivals were part of the worship of the sun and their gods - Tammuz in Babylon, Horus in Egypt, Saturn in Rome, and Mithras in Persia and Rome. These gods have been identified by experts in the occult as associated with Satan.

    Santa or Satan?​

    The name 'Santa' is an anagram for 'Satan'. The rearranging of letters (called anagrams) to hide secret names or words has long been practiced in the occult.

    Satan seeks to imitate the most high YHWH and be worshipped like him. Consider the fact that 'Santa' is dressed in red (Revelation 19:13, "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God"), has white hair and a beard (Revelation 1:14, "His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow"), is omniscient (ie, "knows whether children have been good or bad"), omnipresent (can travel the whole world over in one night), rides the heavens with the help of magical beasts, resides in the North (Isaiah 14:13, "For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north"), "brings good gifts", is a carpenter, and asks children to pray to him. "St Nick" is another name for Santa Claus, while "Old Nick" is an epithet-nickname for Satan. In medieval plays, the trademark line or laugh for Satan, or the devil, was "Ho ho ho". [4]

    Is all of this just a coincidence? Or something more sinister?

    The early years of a child's development are crucial (eg, Proverbs 22:6: "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."). Jesus also said “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 18:3)

    Not only are children hoodwinked into pagan and materialistic practices at Christmas, but are further injured by being lied to about a "Santa" that they are later told is fictionial and does not exist. Consider what harm this does to childrens' "childlike faith" and ability to believe their parents about the existence of 'God'.


    Elves, "Santa's little helpers​
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    What is the significance of elves, who are known as supernatural beings "with magical powers who exercise a mischievous interference in human affairs"?

    Occult researchers and authors describe elves as "demonic entities" associated with witchcraft and sorcery. In "The Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft", Rosemary Ellen Guiley says of Elves:

    "A host of supernatural beings and spirits who exist between earth and heaven. Fairies or Elves are fallen angels. When God cast Lucifer from heaven, the angels who were loyal to Lucifer plunged down with him." (The Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, p. 115) [6]



    "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him" - Revelation 12:9


    The 'traditions of men' or the word of YHWH?​


    Apologists who do not know the true YHWH and his laws will say that even if Christmas has pagan roots it is still "acceptable" to celebrate it because it is "done with good intentions" and attempting to "honor Jesus."

    On the surface, it may appear 'good' and harmless. But underneath, it rooted in darkness -- ie, the worship of false gods and nature, friviolity, materialism, gluttony, and debauchery.

    And then to take the holy name of YHWH and Yahshua and profane them by using them in association with such vile pagan practices. That is truly an abomination.

    In every age, people must decide whether they just "go along with the crowd" on the easy, wide road that leads to destruction -- or whether they will follow the narrow way, taking the words and commandments of YHWH seriously, unto their salvation and eternal life.


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  3. x calibur

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    happy saturnalia!
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  4. Shadow

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    All valid points but people will celebrate anything that involved presents tbh.
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  5. Coup d'état

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    @shadow

    Such a shame really. I don't believe many believers understand fully what idolatry is and what it really means to take the Creators name in vain.
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    agreed, the whole "ignorance is bliss" statement gets tossed around so easily and in reality, God won't care if you knew or not
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    Fairys and elves are not fallen angels. they are beings that actually exist in astral dimensions.
    so are gnomes, hobbits, smurfs, all the weird creatures in things like harry potter movies and such.

    Wether Puratins did or did not reject christmas is irrelevant. but the famous reformer martin luther was actually the one that changed the tradition from "hanging a tree" to placing a tree on the ground. look it up.

    now that ur done trying to ruin the christmas holiday.

    spend a few minutes ruining ur own
    And pagan origins of the manorah....
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    JERUSALEM -- What could be more Jewish than Israel's menorah?

    Something less pagan, perhaps, according to some Jewish scholars.

    The seven-branch candelabrum has been taking a beating lately for its use, and alleged misuse, in Israel.

    The menorah symbolized on Israel's shekel and printed on all official letterheads is a bit of a fraud, contends Professor Daniel Sperber, former dean of the faculty of Basic Jewish Studies at Bar-Ilan University in Tel Aviv.

    "It's a historical mistake," he said.

    It seems the base of the menorah used in Israel is copied from an arch in Rome built two millenniums ago, which in turn was most likely copied from a temple in southern Turkey built for the worship of Zeus, the Greek god of the heavens.

    The original source included dragons with twisted, long necks, mounted by beautiful, naked nymphs. On the modern menorah, the dragons survive, but the nymphs have been banished in the name of religious modesty.

    The solid base is nothing like that described in the Exodus book of the Bible, a three-legged stand decorated with flowers and buttons, not monsters and beauties.

    "What we have here is something that is not really Jewish," the professor said. "It is really part forgery."

    He argues that the Israel government should disinherit the flawed emblem it adopted in 1949 and gradually change over its official symbol to one that is historically accurate.

    "We really should have a symbol that is authentically Jewish and follows the Biblical description," he said. "I think when you chose a state symbol you should be a purist."

    The trail of the mistake is an interesting one. The modern menorah was taken from a scene on the stone face of the Arch of Titus, built in Rome in the year 81.

    The arch celebrates the Roman victory over the Jews 11 years earlier, and its scenes show Jews being led to captivity and their treasures -- including a menorah -- being taken away from the ransacked Jewish temple.

    But Professor Sperber theorizes that the fragile base of the candelabrum was broken off in an earlier ransacking. The workmen hired by Herod to rebuild the Jewish temple envisioned a new base and copied unusual dragon images they had likely seen on a structure called the Temple of Didyma in Turkey.

    That design turned up on the Arch of Titus and, through the years, became incorporated in the symbol of Jewishness. It is inlaid in mosaic floors, worked into walls, doors and the latticework of synagogues. It decorates glasses and is a popular paper cut-out in Jewish elementary schools.

    Despite its popular acceptance, the present menorah is an affront to Jews, Professor Sperber argues.

    "The people who are aware of it will see something that is symbolic of a society ignorant of its sources, divorced from its sources," he said.

    "I couldn't disagree more," retorts Professor Dan Barag, a Hebrew University archaeologist, who sees nothing wrong with the government menorah. "The menorah is the most meaningful symbol that Judaism has created.

    "It symbolizes the resurrection, the coming of the Messiah. Jews hold it in their hands and say the Messiah will come."

    But Professor Barag has his own complaints about Israel's use of the symbol. He recently protested the issue of an Israeli postage stamp with a picture of an ancient oil lamp.

    In the well of the lamp is the etching of a menorah. But Professor Barag is miffed that the position of the lamp on the stamp seems to put the menorah on its side.

    "I think it's wrong. It's the emblem of the state," argued the professor, who is a curator of ancient coins and stamps.

    "There would be a public outcry if you printed a stamp in England with the head of the monarch on her side," he said.

    Yinon Beilin, head of Israel's Philatelic Service, is unimpressed with the complaint: "They are dealing with an issue that is totally marginal. It has no significance."

    Professor Sperber expects little luck getting the base of the menorah changed, and Professor Barag was equally resigned to the lack of public response for his demand that the stamp be recalled.

    "What had the proportion of becoming a major political scandal passed without much notice," Mr. Barag sighed
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    You can only serve one master, and you can only drink from the cup of one master.

    Ruin the holiday ? Do you celebrate Christmas ? As a true follower of the Messiah you should not be playing with this pagan tradition...it's rebellion against the Father. This is a hell-a-day. It's honoring satan.

    Snap out of it friend! Stop being a coward and stop celebrating satan.

    You said ruin ? I'm trying to help free people. (though I am not perfect and need to pull the plank yet out of my own eye first, but I do not honor this hell a day).


    About your article:

    Judaism is no better, much like mainline Christianty it is riddled with paganism. Judaism is not the true religion...it was developed by man off tenets of the truth. Lot's of rip offs and counterfeits out there from the real deal. But the menorah is not pagan...it may be used by the "jews" today in pagan ways, but it is not pagan.

    All you have to do is look to scriptures to prove this.


    Point is don't use Judaism as an example of the truth, just how Roman Catholicism or mainline Christianity can't be used either, due the man made traditions biased of age old paganism.

    @TheBigPayback you seem to have issues with the Father and seem to stick up for Satan.
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  10. TheBigPayback

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    Just shut up.

    its first of all ridiculous to assume u know the true date of the birth of christ.
    and utterly ridiculous to say by recognizing it, its celebrating satan.

    are there pagan traditions that have been incorporated into the holiday..? Sure.
    does that mean anyone is required to participate in those things? Course not.

    theres pagan tradition in LOTS of things. and as much as u like to proclaim inoccents
    from the popular ones wether ur aware or not u participate in many everyday.


    maybe focus on the dreadlocks and weed smoking of your pastor if u wanna truely
    be objective in reproof.
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  11. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    @TheBigPayback Your true nature is on display for all to see, even our Father (Yah have mercy on us both).

    Jeremiah 10:2 -

    Thus saith YAHWEH, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.


    Christmas worships all the signs and false gods of the heavens. That is why it is on December 25th...


    You are straining a nat and swallowing a camel here @TheBigPayback.

    This article is not about the Messiah's birth. For one, I did not write the article. For two, it is to show beyond a doubt that Christmas is not to be observed by true followers. I provided it to show the obvious. That Christmas is not a set apart (holy) High day ordained by the Father to be observed. That it is pagan in origin and it honor's the adversary. It's rebellion.

    However, since you are on the topic, Yahshua was probably born in the fall. Who cares. Not important here.


    The law of the Father is perfect. Christmas is not a High day (holy day/ holiday). It's nothing to the Father. It is evil.

    2Samuel 22:31
    As for Elohim, his way is perfect; the word of YAH is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him

    Yah's way are pagan ?

    No.

    They are Christmans ?

    No.

    Are they watered down with pagan influences ?

    No.

    Is paganism OKAY ?

    NO. Elohim forbid.

    YAH's way is PERFECT.

    PERFECT.

    Christmas is evil and it honors evil. Period. Have a guilty conscious ? You are taking the name of the Father in vain by doing this celebration of Satan. Do not learn the way of the heathen.

    Matthew 15:8

    This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.


    Ephesians 5:11

    And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

    Exodus 20:7

    Thou shalt not take the name of Yahuwah thy Elohim in vain; for Yahuwah will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

    By serving Satan in this Christmas spirit you are taking Him in vain.

    You have issues my friend. Growing your hair out like he is, is to take the Nazarine oath. It's in the scriptures. It's optional. It's a serious oath to take and not cutting your hair is apart of the way the Nazarines did it. You are mocking a serious thing out of pure foolishness and ignorance, hate and jealousy. All contrary to the scriptures and not of the Spirit of the Father. Shame on you. Not him.

    Also he has never so much as smoked anything in his life. I bare witness to that.

    I say this to correct the slander you put out. Lies.

    You know there is a commandment forbidding to bare false witness against others.


    Revelation 22:14-15

    Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

    Christmas is idolatry. To say it is OKAY is to lie. That Christmas is ordained by the Father in any fashion is a lie. To teach this to children and to others as scriptural is to be a liar.



    Finally,

    Thebigpayback, we are soposed to be of one accord. We are brothers. We must put aside our flesh, differences and strive to be unified in the body of Messiah. There is no confusion in the word. I'm worried about you. Is everything going for you well ? If you need anyone to talk to, PLEASE contact me. You can always talk to me. I mean it. We are brothers. Trust me, I am not your enemy. I am your brother.


    1 John 2:4


    He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
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    Mark 3:1-6

    Again he entered the synagogue, and a man was there with a withered hand. And they watched Jesus, to see whether he would heal him on the Sabbath, so that they might accuse him. And he said to the man with the withered hand, “Come here.” And he said to them, “Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do harm, to save life or to kill?”But they were silent. And he looked around at them with anger, grieved at their hardness of heart, and said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was restored. The Pharisees went out and immediately held counsel with the Herodians against him, how to destroy him.


    Ur misappropriating scripture..again.
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    So a there's not a clear line drawn where you'd only believe in zombies, but in a whole array of fictional characters, too?

    Would you be kind as to de facto provide evidence of the bolded part?

    Wait, smurfs are real?

    Whatever you're using it's a helluva drug.
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    Yup where do u think the ideas come from. the bible dosent really go into much of it. but talk with some of the people that do spirit guide meditation, astral traveling and such.

    same dimension we get the idea of gray aliens.
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    What did I just read
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    I don't know one person who even thinks about satan on Christmas.

    Who gives a fuck?
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    :idontbelieveu2:
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    Man this post goes in. Galatea, got me rollin!!!! Coup you always bringing the fire...those who have ears let them hear brethren!!!
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    You do. He's on your mind 24/7 you just don't know it.
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