Pacquiao vs Hatton....

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  1. Namor

    Namor Prodigal Sun-god

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    wow-don't get emo on me
    [game]"you're makin up shit" lol

    Hatton was extremly offensive-more so than Floyd-his whole game is/was offense

    don't tiwst my words-I'm sayin Floyd has had fights with fighters who are more offensive than FLOYD, not that they had superior Offense to Pac

    Mayweather's biggest fight as a junior lightweight was on January 20, 2001, against Diego Corrales. At the time, neither fighter had been defeated or knocked down. In the bout, Mayweather won every round and knocked down Corrales five times (three times in round 7 and twice in round 10).

    He fought against the promising South African knockout specialist Phillip Ndou, whose record was 31-1 with 30 KOs. Uncharacteristically, Mayweather was offensively oriented from the beginning of the fight. Round 5 was one of 2003's most action-packed.[19] In the middle of the round, Mayweather landed a barrage of powerful punches. Ndou endured and threw wild punches that forced Mayweather into the ropes, but Mayweather demonstrated his rhythmic defensive technique and let Ndou wear himself out further.
    Floyd Mayweather, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    your last football analogy was horibble-the context of defense and offense in how it relate to boxing as opposed to football has absolutely nothing to do with each other

    did you just compare a team sport to boxing??!?!



    Floyd is pretty fast too, so manny speed margin won't be as great

    Floyds SUPERIOR DEFENSE will be the deciding factor...
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  2. ANDtheMC

    ANDtheMC New Member

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    That didn't even work. Terrible attempt to use a wise-crack.

    That's retarded because the strength in counterpunching against an overaggressive fighter is that you just block and find a hole to land shots. The more aggressive you are against an aggressive fighter, the better chance you have at getting hit or knocked out.

    Pacquiao did what's considered riskier and still knocked 'em the fuck out. Manny did what SHOULD be easier and took longer to beat Hatton. And on top of that, Hatton (who is almost a amateur striker compared to Pacman) still landed a shot that hit Mayweather and almost had him touch the canvas in the first or second round (I forget which)...

    This is all irrelevent bein' none of them are close to as good as Manny is now.

    You're an idiot because even tho' football is a team sport, there are one on one matchups and the receiver/cornerback matchup is OFTEN BROKEN DOWN AS A ONE ON ONE MATCHUP (especially on man coverage). You're an idiot if you don't understand this. The fact of the matter is, the defender doesn't know when or where the ball is going to be thrown just like a defender in boxing doesn't know exactly where or when the punches are going to come. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE THROWN BY SOMEONE THE CALIBER OF MANNY PACQUIAO.


    It's not only speed. It's anticipating where the punch goes. It's harder to guess where Manny is going to punch WHILE KEEPING UP WITH HIS SPEED. And Floyd does not have faster hands than Manny.

    We'll see, but I disagree.
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  3. Namor

    Namor Prodigal Sun-god

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    and you're a fuckin queer-ass idiot who is using the word "striker"

    lmao @ striker

    who the fuck says that...


    When Manny fought Marquez in the rematch, he got caught cleany many times b/c cuz many of his combinations shots leave him wide open...

    Floyd does not have to be faster than Manny-

    Floyd is MUCH faster than JMM; and the fact that JMM counter punching OFFENSE, gives Manny problems means that Floyds greater experience, defensive capability and more varied(and natural) offense will overcome the ever so slight holes in Manny.


    Floyd is more versatile than manny, plain & simple

    he's been puttin on "virtuoso" performances since 98'


    meanwhile Manny is still learning how to box? Improving? He's great, but still dosen't have the depth of skill as Floyd.

    I'd putt Clottey over MAnny as well, simply b/c he has equal power, great speed-and a solid defense.

    Lets see Manny take on Mosley....
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  4. Namor

    Namor Prodigal Sun-god

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    and yes your football analogy is fuckin stupid...
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  5. ANDtheMC

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    YOU FUCKIN' IDIOT. I'M NOT EVEN READING YOUR RESPONSE AFTER THIS PART. "Striker" is an MMA term but it works as a whole. Freddy Roach has even used this term in the past, moron. I'm not gonna read more of your ignorance unless your first few sentences aren't filled with such stupidity. PEACE.
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  6. Mac Sabbath

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    Yeah, but JMM's stats are pretty similar to Pac's. Mayweather's usually the fastest guy in the fight, and in this case he wouldn't be. I think Mayweather could probably get a decision over JMM, but pacquiao is a little more aggressive with his quick hands.

    and yes, defense is good, but you also have to defend yourself before your opponent is able to connect. If Floyd goes the defensive route, he's still going to be overwhelmed with manny's speed and lured into a brawl he'll lose.
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  7. DeenoG

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    Manny is on Steroids.

    it was on the News.

    here is the link that dude tested positive I knew it was true no way dude could hit that hard.

    Manny tests Positive for Enhancers
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  8. Namor

    Namor Prodigal Sun-god

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    generic flame war insults have little effect on me


    lol at emos on the net who get all fed up


    puttin niggas on ignore list n what not

    that'll teach em


    floyds D > Pac's O
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  9. Namor

    Namor Prodigal Sun-god

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    Floyd is way to savy to be lured into a brawl

    however-Manny has a tendency to to get caught up in trying to overwhelm opponents with speed & power.
    Against a skilled technician like Jmm or Floyd, this translates into being open when certain shots don't connect, Manny will be open for Floyd..

    Floyd never looks to be the same fighter in any fight, apart from his D.

    His offensive game is just as good as his D, he just stresses D more b/c it is the areas in which most fighters leave underdeveloped, thus he always has the advantage of countering, setting traps/baiting or simply not coming out of his defensive envelope untl his opponents are spent from trying to penetrate his D.

    Not to mention he isn't a power puncher, so him being more defensive is more congruent to his ability


    If Floyd tried to fight Manyy like your average fighter, he would KO'd quicker than Hatton


    If washed up Dey La Hoya wasn't KO'd by Pac, Floyd superior defense will allow him to overcome Pac


    Hatton was Ko'd b/c he walked into a power punch-thats a recipe for knock out in any fcombat sport

    Floyd will counter pucn & body punch Manny-that will reduce his speed & power for the later rounds
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