One piece is better than Naruto and bleach.

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  1. shinoshaze

    shinoshaze Mugiwara

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    Ok.

    First off..im sorry to the die hard bleach fans but coming from a die hard one piece fan. Bleach is ass magnets. It just sucks, its not even top 3 anymore. Toriko took the spot lol.

    but ne way, Naruto is amazing when it wants to be and could be so much better but its just too much filler. Also ijust dont feel their fights as intensely as ido one piece. Narutos last good fight was sasuke vs danzo and it wasnt even naruto fighting. Maybe Kishimoto has a plan for the war that can stack up to whitebeards war. But ihighly doubt it. Also one piece has much more simple human moments one can relate to. Like when usopp and luffy were arguing over the ship and usopp left but challenged luffy to battle...Usopp lost, Luffy said " you idiot!,you knew you couldnt beat me" and usopp knew he was right. Thats when it became an actual show for me..not just an anime or when the crew fought kuma and became overwhelmed and kuma sent them flying for 3 days and 3 nights. OR when luffy fought lucci...enough said. OR when luffy Finally saved ace but was killed by akainu. The fire chararcter died...Oda is boss at this. He knows how to touch his audience.pause. His art is even better than Kishimotos and far surpasses Kubo. Even though kubo has good character designs still..quality over quantity. Basically Luffy>narutoichigo
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  2. Complete Chaos

    Complete Chaos I'm Drugs.

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  3. Shadow

    Shadow Kotaro's Master

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    Who watches the anime anymore?

    Naruto's Manga is tops of my list....i don't know why you're including filler in ur argument.
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  4. shinoshaze

    shinoshaze Mugiwara

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    Ninjas is no more original than pirates based on concept alone..My point is that Oda is overall better at making manga. His characters are amazing, his idea of the devil fruits along with rokushiki is very original imo. Plot twists. Oda delivers consistently.
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  5. shinoshaze

    shinoshaze Mugiwara

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    Serious question?..:withstupid: alot of people watch anime. I read the manga too bro. Its not as "good" as one piece imo.
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  6. SzOKrates

    SzOKrates iudicium hoc

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    You make a good many points Ive been meaning to watch it for a while
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  7. DaAlmightyDolla

    DaAlmightyDolla Greatness

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    i havent watched it and i dont think i can cuz of the animation .....
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  8. Carpe Noctem

    Carpe Noctem Neos Helios

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    I'm tempted to pick up where I left off with the manga this weekend.

    Got about 20 chapters in and thought the whole pirates/stretch armstrong main character bit was gay.
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  9. Carpe Noctem

    Carpe Noctem Neos Helios

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    Why are all the bitches in this like 6 feet tall
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  10. Complete Chaos

    Complete Chaos I'm Drugs.

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    ugh. Finally, an opportunity to make a comprehensive post about all the faults I have with one piece and I have finals to study for. Dammit. Well, without going into specifics, I have various issues with it, but it simply demands too much suspension of disbelief from me. I'm a nit picking kind of person, and I admit that, but OP has more moments that make me go "That's just dumb!" than anything else I ever read. It's just everything, from how the powers work (There are so many examples I can list, but one is that because Luffy had a thin layer of water on him, he could hit Crocodile, even though Crocodile has been shown to have to be able to drain water from an entire city, and the water on his fist would probably dry out after the first punch), the characters (Zoro is trapped in a rock like substance and has a sword that can cut through rock. "I'll cut off my legs!..Oh, wait Luffy's hear, I'll just sit on my *** until he takes care of the work for me then.")and a lot of the plot points (At the end of Alabasta, though Crocodile was defeated, people still blamed the King for the destruction of their city. Thousands of the rebel fighters are enraged and ready to take veng- oh, wait? What is this? A child? He says that he saw the King acting not like himself? So he must have NOT been the king?! Oh, joy! Everything is okay now, based on the anecdotal evidence of this random child! Come on, everyone, lets party! Forget about the fact that god knows how many people just died fighting for what we only now realize was NOTHING at all.Lets just leave their still rotting corpses in the streets because this is a time for JOY and HAPPINESS because now everything is going to be ****ing dandy! Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit).

    All the characters are very one dimensional and never truly develop. Tell me, has Luffy, the most recurring character of them all, ever developed? He's gained powers and went on a bunch of adventures, but I never see any real change in him. He wanted to be a pirate from a child, he acts dumb but joyful, always looks for fun, never betrays his friends, and is angered whenever something bad happens to his nakama. Not even Ace's death really changed him, he is the same character that he was from the beginning. Happy go lucky guy who loves his friends and continues to search for adventure. Some characters do change in minimal ways, but never in large fundamental ones (Nami learns to trust Luffy, Sanji goes on an adventure, Robin realizes that she found her place).But the problem is that hardly anyone ever changes in a fundamental way. Almost every one of them is, by and large, the same character they were when they were introduced.

    Simple characterization isn't a bad thing, it has it's time and place, but I don't think it works when EVERY character is simple. As a result, when I look at one pieces characters, I don't really believe in any single one of them. By that, I mean I can't empathize with them. I don't care when they get a victory over the current arc's villain, and I don't care when the villain does something horrible to person X. I found the Going Merry's sudden anthropomorphism to be a pathetically sad desperate grab at the audience's sympathy, and when I found out that it actually worked for the majority of people, I actually laughed. The idea of people reading this and having the going merry 'die' is hilarious to me. And that's the greatest emotional reaction I ever got out of the manga. I got a much deeper emotional reaction from Naruto's development from a lonely boy to the determined ninja that he became in part 1 of naruto. I have a much deeper emotional reaction when I read Killua's inner thoughts about how grateful he is to Gon for being his friend. I meh'd my way through 99% of One Piece.

    Now, I like one piece. People are often shocked to hear me say so after I rant about it so much.I like the badass moments and I'd really like to see more of the World Government and it's world conquering backstory and especially Akainu. And I like a lot of the characters. It's a fun adventure whenever I turn by brain off. But I have heard people say that one piece is one of the greatest epics of our time. Once I get over the shock induced by hearing something so outrageously ludicrous, all I can say is "To each, his own."

    yeah. i stole this.
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  11. Pyrōsuke Aizen

    Pyrōsuke Aizen Kyōka Suigetsu

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    Definitely.

    Unfortunately, i'm caught up to the last of the dvd releases so i'm stuck just after the end of the skypea arc(which i didn't care too much for)...and haven't gone on in the manga, and don't want to stream in shit quality, but i'll probably have to settle for that pretty soon.

    but it's still currently my favorite anime, when naruto and bleach were for the longest time.

    Zoro/Luffy>
    Chopper/Usopp as comedic relief>>>
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  12. NOBLE SOLDIER

    NOBLE SOLDIER Fireball Kid

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    im caught up to the manga.. one peice >>>> but not better then naruto..
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  13. ShaolinCritique

    ShaolinCritique New Member

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    Watch your blashpemous mouth. hahahahahha.

    Naruto's fights are always interesting to watch. i know one peice has a lot of characters to watch and get into.

    but naruto's characters are just cooler.. FUCKIN NINJA FROGS BRO. SUP.
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