Okay you potheads..what do you think of this article?

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  1. skandelous_lala

    skandelous_lala back from the dead

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    Stronger Pot May Make Reefer Madness Real, U.S. Fears

    Mon Jul 19,12:36 PM ET


    By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Alarmed by reports that marijuana is becoming more potent than ever and that children are trying it at younger and younger ages, U.S. officials are changing their drug policies.






    Pot is no longer the gentle weed of the 1960s and may pose a greater threat than cocaine or even heroin because so many more people use it. So officials at the National Institutes of Health (news - web sites) and at the White House are hoping to shift some of the focus in research and enforcement from "hard" drugs such as cocaine and heroin to marijuana.

    While drug use overall is falling among children and teens, the officials worry that the children who are trying pot are doing so at ever-younger ages, when their brains and bodies are vulnerable to dangerous side effects.

    "Most people have been led to believe that marijuana is a soft drug, not a drug that causes serious problems," John Walters, head of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, said in an interview.

    "(But) marijuana today is a much more serious problem than the vast majority of Americans understand. If you told people that one in five of 12- to 17-year-olds who ever used marijuana in their lives need treatment, I don't think people would remotely understand it."

    JUMP IN POT-RELATED DETOX

    The number of children and teen-agers in treatment for marijuana dependence and abuse has jumped 142 percent since 1992, the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University reported in April.

    According to the report, children and teens are three times more likely to be in treatment for marijuana abuse than for alcohol, and six times likelier to be in treatment for marijuana than for all other illegal drugs combined.

    And it found the age of youths using marijuana is falling. The teens aged 12 to 17 said on average they started trying marijuana at 13-1/2. The same survey found that adults aged 18 to 25 had first tried it at 16.

    For National Institute on Drug Abuse director Dr. Nora Volkow the final straw was a report her institute published in May in the Journal of the American Medical Association (news - web sites) showing the steady growth in the potency of cannabis seized in raids.

    According to the University of Mississippi's Marijuana Potency Project, average levels of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, rose steadily from 3.5 percent in 1988 to more than 7 percent in 2003.

    Volkow said many studies have shown the brain has its own so-called endogenous cannabinoids. These molecules are similar in structure to the active ingredients in marijuana and are involved in a range of activities and emotions ranging from eye function to pain regulation and anxiety.

    GETTING INTO THE BRAIN

    Brain cells have receptors -- molecular doorways -- designed specifically to interact with these cannabinoids.

    The cannabinoids in marijuana may use these ready-made doorways into brain cells and this is why they cause a high and reduce pain sensations. But Volkow believes the effects may go beyond the general feeling of well-being that most marijuana users seek.

    "I would predict that stronger pot makes the brain less likely to respond to endogenous cannabinoids," Volkow said in an interview. The effects could be especially marked in young brains still growing and learning how to respond to stimuli, she said.

    While the research so far is inconclusive, Volkow believes that cannabinoids affect the developing brain and that stronger pot, combined with earlier use, could make children and teens anxious, unmotivated or perhaps even psychotic.



    As an analogy, Volkow said opiate addicts are more sensitive to pain, as their overuse of drugs have raised the threshold at which the body responds and their own bodies produce fewer natural opiates.

    NIDA is seeking proposals from researchers who want to investigate such possibilities for cannabis, she said.

    Proponents of legalizing marijuana disagree with the official line. Krissy Oechslin of the Marijuana Policy Project disputes the finding that cannabis products are stronger.

    "They make it sound like the THC levels in marijuana were almost nonexistent, but no one would have smoked it then if that was true," she said.

    "And there's evidence that the stronger the THC, the less of it a person smokes. I don't want to say it's good for you, but I'll say (more potent marijuana) is less bad for you."

    While Walters stresses that drug abusers are patients and not criminals, he hopes to crack down more on producers. And he says, there is a way to go in getting cooperation from local law enforcement officials. "For many in enforcement, marijuana is still 'kiddie dope'," Walters said.

    Walters is quick to stress he does not want to overreact.

    "We shouldn't be victims of reefer madness," he said, referring to the 1930s propaganda film "Reefer Madness" that became a 1970s cult classic for its over-the-top scenes of marijuana turning teens into homicidal maniacs.




    Greater threat than cocaine or heroin? Gimmie a break lol I'm all about smoking a good joint lol... but I do agree that kids smoking when their like 11 or something isn't a good idea...tho I don't have much room to talk cuz I tried weed for the first time when I was 13...but I'm perfectly normal (I think) and I have yet to know anybody who freaked out or killed anybody due to marijuana. Weed turning people psychotic??? lol I've never heard of such a thing. Unmotivated? Maybe lol
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  2. Steve Schade

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    Garbage propaganda. More potent than ever? Puhlease, they compare modern day pot with bricks of pot from the 60s that have REDUCED in THC levels over time and then throw out "potency increasing!", bullshit. Harder then heroin??? This IS like the reefer madness of the 30s, they said in this article pot can turn people psycho! That's the fucking propaganda they used to push their legislation through in the late 30s!!! I can't believe I'm reading this shit.

    Anyway you would think the US would take a fucking clue from other countries who have legalized pot, or implemented rehabilitation instead of incarceration. So what happened to these countries who actually LEGALIZED pot?!?!?! Gasp! Well, drug use went DOWN and violent crime went DOWN. Should pot be legal? Of course it should.

    The whole "War on Drugs" is a huge fucking failure and everyone knows it. What right does the government have to say "no you can't do these drugs, those drugs are ok, nope this ones bad, yeah you can do that other one". Picking and choosing which drug they will make acceptable for society, and those that will be demonized. Waging a war on your own fucking citizens is the most absurd thing I have EVER heard of in my life.

    Will the government change? No. For a couple of reasons. #1. They are stubborn fuck ups who won't ever admit to being wrong and they are all scared of change. #2. They have their dirty fucking hands in the drug trade and they don't want that money to disappear.

    The whole thing is a mess, just like everything else in the world.
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  3. TEXTticulR forti2d

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  4. SaeWhat

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    True.... But the AIDS rate went up
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  5. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    I think this article is a just like the show "reefer madness"
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  7. Dunpeal

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    It's fucking bullshit to be honest.

    I do agree that kids under 18 shouldn't smoke though....

    But I don't really give a fuck and would sell a bag of weed to anyone, no matter the age and help them roll the blunt to smoke it.
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  8. GarciaVega

    GarciaVega Razor Ramon

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    yeah, i dont think 12 and 13 year olds should be sparking.. I mean I was but not as regular as now...


    Theres really not much to the article at all..


    no new info, nothing..

    and the figures are retarded..

    the reason more 12 to 13 year olds are in rehab programs is because they are put there.

    what 12 year old walks into a fucking clinic and tells someone they have a weed problem?

    If cops stop being so pressed they wouldnt have a 142 percent increase in people in substance abuse programs..

    90% of them are not there by choice..
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  9. Cigma

    Cigma Maxwell's Demon

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    Prohibition makes money.
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  10. Snikka

    Snikka Vision Action Execution

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    Mostly agenda... but, I WOULDN'T DOUBT that if you smoke at a young age (say maybe under 18), It causes a slight learning disability.. I remember back in high school the stoners were fucking STUPID and didn't do shit in school... So you tell me if that's good...


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  11. TEXTticulR forti2d

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    hey, thats me!

    - but i wouldnt anyone under 13 hit my blunt. thats cruel
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  12. Alphy Rod

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    If its comming from the WHITE HOUSE...99% chance it is false propaganda....i'll take a shit on this thread...everyone light up a blunt!
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  13. MatchGhost

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    they should legalize it for over 18. it would solve so many problems
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  14. Ben Official

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    ok.... i recently took a trip to amsterdam where ofcourse pot it legalized or at least tolerated. when i was there, i noticed how much better their society is than ours. everything is so much more organized, people are nicer, and pot is smoked by nearly everyone it seems like. their country is doing better, i dont know if its because of the pot legalized, but damn the US needs to take some god damn notes and look at amsterdam.
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  15. Atreyu

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    thats tight^^^
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  16. Madpoet

    Madpoet why is this so short....

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    Its been a conspiracy from ANSLINGERS time....
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  17. -K@tO-

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    I think it will happen here in a near future... Shit already been decriminalized, can't get busted with less than half an OZ. Too many weed smokers around here, and the governement could make mad profit by growing their own and selling it in drug store just like alcohol + control the THC percentage of weed and kill the drug traffic.

    A pack of Quebec gold please
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  18. -K@tO-

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    Oh and were sitting right next to New York.
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  19. Offbeat

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    i first sparked at 14 but that was stupid of me

    i think u should be at least 17

    anyways this is basically bs

    their prolly comparing 60s regs to todays purple haze
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