Discussion in 'Audio Producers Discussions' started by Creative Silence, Jul 19, 2006.
i think we nahmean lol
+53hz and +12k on a kick
+250hz and +2k on a snare
+400hz, +3k and +12k on a piano
+400hz, +2.5k and +5k on a vocal
+12k on a hi hat
+120hz on a bass guitar
you're not boosting everything on every instrument, but you're boosting everything
that's what i'm talking about, and it's what a shitload of people do, especially producers on this board
^^^But by boosting frequencies...isn't that adding artificial shit?
Wouldn't it be better to CUT than Boost?
well technically it depends... like I said, its ear n common sense ...
but technically mayn you ain't boostin EVERYTHING nahmean... depends of course, whether you doin real pinpoint frequency or you boosin the range... you gotta boost SOME shit, peeps jus gotta learn whut nahmean mayn... how else you gunna make them snares snap n shiet feel meh?
Well I never go past 0 when mixing...I always cut and compress later, but I'm starting to rethink some of that after reading this thread.
think he jus givin example nahmean mayn... technically you gotta boost certain things to get a desired sound... obviously cut others, but if you wanna snap snare best be boostin some shit nahmean mayn
its funny how producers try to get that lo-fi hiphop sound, but are scared to boost shit lol
thats why i said....not everything you read in a book works when it comes to hip hop....
if im doing a crunk ass beat im not mixing or doing the same things i would be doing to a traditional east coast sampled beat when it comes to my drums...different styles require you to do different things to get the effect your looking for......
but alot of these cats dont understand that....not even engineer's....ive had to yell at engineers before for trying to make sampled beats sound clean as fuck....and im like.....WTF ARE YOU DOING!!!...they cuttin this and that and then you have this thin ass sample sittin on top of some drums that sound lifeless cause they start gating and taking away shit thats on the natural recording.....
and for some odd reason many engineer's ive met love music.....but suck horribly at making it.....dont know wtf is up with that..lol
no, you're not, all an eq does is provide a volume control over individual frequency ranges, that's it. you're simply turing up or down specific parts of a sound.
yep, that's what i've been saying...duh...it's better to turn down the parts of a sound you don't like than turn up the ones you do, because you still have the shit you don't want in there by boosting...when you cut you're getting rid of shit you don't want
Exactly Arcane, by boosting your adding artificial volume/amplitude to the original sound over individual frequency ranges.
But by "cutting" your just taking away from the Original sound, which can either end up sounding more flat or more muddy.
These are defintly not the golden rules of mixing... Just someones opinion...
I think if you asked ten people to write a document like the one above you would get 10 different versions.....
But, what I find useful from this isnt the instructions to boost or cut...
Itz gives you a good idea of frequencies to sounds.... And what frequency area a particular type of sound should be in...
The best way to mix is by ear but I also like to use my eyes to check meters and
spectrum analysis and compare against other mixes....
Read alot of the posts, and that kat Mad Skrews dropped some bombs as far as I am concerned.....
flatter yes, muddy, no
theres no way something can get more muddy by cutting
I take that back...I meant "soft".....
that ones debateable, depending on what the origional sound is, and where the cut is
i dont really get it.
uhmm let me ask this with an example
lets say you have a 3 band Equalizer.
by raising the 1st band you'll boost the bass on, for example, a kick.
will cutting the mid and the high band give you the same results as boosting the 1st band?
yep, pretty much
i basically have extreme diariah right now...bbl.
then why debate it? or r u talkin bout to make it fit inside the area of sound. I get both arguements I honestly like a bit of a muddy sound over a clean one except on vocals but im curious if the result will end up being the same why debate
the end result won't be the same
on a single track, a boost or a cut makes relatively no difference, but when it's put together with say, 40 other tracks, it makes a considerable difference if you're doing a lot of boosts instead of a lot of cuts
i got this really good book on mixing.
it teaches you how to make an "image" of what your mix would look like in your head. that shit is brilliant nigga. it fuckin made mixing 10 fuckin times easier. get at me if u want the book (PDF)
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