ok now i got a theory of evolution that wouldnt go against a biblical creation either

Discussion in 'The Sanctuary' started by TheBigPayback, Feb 28, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. reggie_jax

    reggie_jax rapper noyd

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    2,437
    ^exactly. some of you need to look into evolution a little more before writing it off. bigpayback is still under the impression that if we were the product of evolution we'd be dino-sized killing machines based on 'survival of the fittest,' while LP is essentially saying that because we're the dominant species on earth that we are too smart/cool/pimpin to have evolved.

    both of these views are working off a warped view of not only evolution but humanity in general, and for the most part the same answer can be given to both:

    evolution affects every type organism in a different way, based on multiple variables which might shape the survival of a species in one way or another.

    as memento pointed out, every single technological improvement that LP points to as divine intervention reveals an inherent weakness in mankind. basically there is strength in weakness so long as it leads to innovation. this is where humanity has succeeded through intellect. this is why we're so smart yet so frail.

    if humans are simply "blessed," then i invite you to try your luck in the wilderness for a few months with no provisions, find out how blessed we really are without the inventions of other humans.

    if we're the inherent kings of nature then why aren't we equipped with the same natural tools as other predators? because those tools were adapted, never inherent. same as the human's intellect.

    the day a lion meets a human on equal grounds is the day a lion has an easy meal. at the same time, as a collective we are capable of not only bringing the lion into captivity, but also training it to perform for our amusement.

    both the lion and the man have their inherent strengths and weaknesses. every species has a certain 'niche' (or role) in their given environment, which is how they direct specialization. without this, the natural order we observe today could never exist.
    yea? then why is it that we've achieved more through modern science in the past few centuries than we previously had through thousands of years of worship?

    i'm not trying to downplay religion's role in mankind's history, because it has been quite significant. however i think its ridiculous to say that humanity would get more done if we used our minds to 'glorify god.' its quite clear to me that healthy skepticism and genuine curiosity have gotten/will get us much further than blind loyalty to old ideas ever will.
    test
  2. M-theory

    M-theory Saint Esprit

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2001
    Messages:
    38,468
    7 Architectural Wonders of the Natural World (source:webecoist.com)

    So you thought the ancient and modern wonders created by mankind and creative contemporary architecture were something? From underground ant colonies that extend farther than the Great Wall of China to termite mounds that tower at nearly twice the relative height of the Burj Dubai (tallest skyscraper in the world), and from the largest multi-species spider web ever discovered to the longest beaver dam on the planet, here are seven of the most awe-inspiring animal architects and architectonic structures of the animal kingdom.

    1) Towering Termites: Massive Earth Movers
    [​IMG]
    Termites are amazing creatures by almost any metric. Their queens are 30 times the size of normal soldiers and workers and produce about 30 eggs per minute to keep the colony alive. Relative to their size, termites build the biggest structures of the animal kingdom – .4 inch creatures constructing towers weighing hundreds of tons and up to 25 feet in height and 40 feet in diameter (the human equivalent of 4,600 feet tall). And that is just 40 feet above the ground - termites can also burrow as far as 225 feet underground.

    2) Social Weavers: Avian Condo Architects
    [​IMG]
    The so-called social (or sociable) weaver bird is one of the friendliest flyers in the sky. They combine forces and take over entire trees to make what can only be considered something like an awesome animal ‘apartment’ structure. Instead of building independent nests, up to 300 pairs of birds come together to build giant mega-nests up to 25 feet wide, 5 feet high and with an individual room for every couple. As with a huge condo complex, there are multiple ‘basement’ entrances that lead up through clusters of chambers.

    3) Naked Mole Rats: Uncanny Underground Diggers
    [​IMG]
    The naked mole rat goes by many names, including the potentially misleading “sand puppy” which might imply that these voracious diggers are cute and friendly fellows. They are uniquely eusocial amongst mammals, meaning they are hive-like and massively organized creatures like ants, bees, wasps and termites only much much larger and scarier looking. To add to their eeriness, they are essentially cold-blooded and feel absolutely no pain. Up to 100 of these strange creatures live together in a single underground habitat, which they dig with disproportionately gigantic sets of teeth that are placed in front of (rather than behind) their lips so they don’t swallow dirt. Naked mole rats can live for up to 28 years and colonies feed on tubers (engorged plant parts) that weigh up to 1000 times as much as an individual mole rat does.

    4) Ants: Super-Strong Subterranean Excavators
    [​IMG]
    The largest ant colony discovered to date stretches over 4000 miles across Europe – this super-colony is suspected to have billions of ants. Everyone knows that ants are incredible builders that can carry many times their own weight but few have gotten to see inside their spectacular subterranean structures. The particular colony shown above is 500 square feet in size, penetrates 25 feet into the ground and required the displacement of 40 tons of dirt to be created. As it was dug up, transit tunnels and ventilation inflow and outflow shafts were revealed as well as fungus gardens and trash pits. Be sure to watch the scientists unearth this monstrous architectural undertaking in this amazing video.

    5) Caddisflies: Unique Underwater Builders
    [​IMG]
    Unlike most of the intriguing animals and animal architecture in this list the caddisfly and its buildings are not massive communally-constructed mega-structures. On the contrary, the caddisfly makes relatively minute architecture but does so with remarkable versatility and (perhaps a stretch) artistic license. Using whatever materials are available – from sand and shells to twigs and trash – the larval form of these so-called “underwater architects” build themselves mobile “shells” to protect them and provide natural camouflage (made from local materials) as they develop. Eventually, they grow mandibles and swim to the surface where they discard their unique architectural creations, flex their wings and fly away.

    6) Dual-Built Beaver Dam: Longest in the World
    [​IMG]
    The longest recorded beaver dam in the world spans 2800 feet and has existed for over a decade. From the aerial images it is clear that at least two beaver families have worked in tandem in the construction of the record-setting structure. The nature of the wetland is such that long dams are needed to trap broad stretches of low-flowing water. Other dams in the area have been sized at up to 1500+ feet but at nearly 3000 feet this two-family dam is a one-of-a-kind discovery.

    7) Communal Spider Web: Biggest in the World
    [​IMG]
    Thousands of spiders from twelve species worked together to construct this amazing web that spans over 600 feet. This is highly unusual behavior for spiders that normally fight over territory and prey, preferring to eat their enemies and build independent, solitary circular webs. However, record rainfalls provided such an abundance of edible insects that (scientists speculate) the spiders chose cooperation over conflict in this extraordinary case of evolutionary adaptation. Even more exceptional: the spiders did not just build it in the first place but have actually rebuilt the web three times after wind and rain has destroyed it.

    [Link]
    test
  3. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    11,469
    We do use mature as inspiration for everything from aerodynamics and cars to ya perhaps see some in architecture.
    test
  4. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2002
    Messages:
    55,612
    i believe animals have feelings and a type of conscience

    if you want i will find you super sad videos that demonstrate it...
    test
  5. Jay Bee

    Jay Bee Boricua

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    2,596
    evolution kickin ass in this thread lol
    test
  6. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    11,469
    Ive seen the spca commercials already
    test
  7. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    11,469
    Those pics are cool. Tell me the truth tho when u were posting those u didnt feel like u were using God to to disprove God. Maybe not u persay but the ones mocking the idea an praising the mind of man.
    test
  8. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    11,469
    nature doesnt imply order. Thats part of ithe prob rite there
    test
  9. reggie_jax

    reggie_jax rapper noyd

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    2,437
    not sure what you're trying to say

    by natural order i was talking about the relationships between different species in an ecosystem. if you're just saying that god is the only reason that order exists, well i simply disagree. but any theory on god is essentially philosophical guesswork, meanwhile it's well known across the board that forms of 'order' do exist in nature, regardless of whatever religious explanation you might have for why that is.
    test
  10. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    11,469
    I just find that as one of the problems for a natural order such as evolution. Because nature isnt ordered.
    test
  11. reggie_jax

    reggie_jax rapper noyd

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    2,437
    but nature is ordered... what makes you say its not?
    test
  12. Jay Bee

    Jay Bee Boricua

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    2,596
    its funny how god used to explain y things are but now that we know why things really are god followers simply xplain that by "o yea god set that up too"
    test
  13. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    11,469
    In general no. If i took a clear box with 50 blue marbles,50 yellow marbles, and 50 red marbles in color order and set the box on the shore how many wave would have to go by before it put the marbles back in order. By nature, nature is chaotic.
    test
  14. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    11,469
    really?
    test
  15. Jay Bee

    Jay Bee Boricua

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    2,596
    ^^^that might be the worse arguement u eva posted lol
    test
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

Users Viewing Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 0)