New evidence supports theory life may have started on mars

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  1. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    Evidence is mounting that life on Earth may have started on Mars. A leading scientist has claimed that one particular element believed to be crucial to the origin of life would only have been available on the surface of the red planet.

    Professor Steven Benner, a geochemist, has argued that the "seeds" of life probably arrived on Earth in meteorites blasted off Mars by impacts or volcanic eruptions. As evidence, he points to the oxidised mineral form of the element molybdenum, thought to be a catalyst that helped organic molecules develop into the first living structures.

    "It's only when molybdenum becomes highly oxidised that it is able to influence how early life formed," said Benner, of the Westheimer Institute for Science and Technology in the US. "This form of molybdenum couldn't have been available on Earth at the time life first began, because three billion years ago, the surface of the Earth had very little oxygen, but Mars did.

    "It's yet another piece of evidence which makes it more likely that life came to Earth on a Martian meteorite, rather than starting on this planet."

    All living things are made from organic matter, but simply adding energy to organic molecules will not create life. Instead, left to themselves, organic molecules become something more like tar or asphalt, said Prof Benner.

    He added: "Certain elements seem able to control the propensity of organic materials to turn to tar, particularly boron and molybdenum, so we believe that minerals containing both were fundamental to life first starting.

    "Analysis of a Martian meteorite recently showed that there was boron on Mars; we now believe that the oxidised form of molybdenum was there too."

    Another reason why life would have struggled to start on early Earth was that it was likely to have been covered by water, said Benner. Water would have prevented sufficient concentrations of boron forming and is also corrosive to RNA, a DNA cousin believed to be the first genetic molecule to have appeared.

    Although there was water on early Mars, it covered much less of the planet. "The evidence seems to be building that we are actually all Martians; that life started on Mars and came to Earth on a rock," said Benner, speaking at the Goldschmidt 2013 conference in Florence, Italy. "It's lucky that we ended up here nevertheless, as certainly Earth has been the better of the two planets for sustaining life. If our hypothetical Martian ancestors had remained on Mars, there might not have been a story to tell."

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  3. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    my thoughts on this article...

    Evidence is mounting that life on Earth may have started on Mars. A leading scientist has claimed that one particular element believed to be crucial to the origin of life would only have been available on the surface of the red planet.

    Where is the evidence ? A "leading" scientist claims an element "believed" to be crucial to life would have been only avaible on mars....This is his opinion. That is all.


    Professor Steven Benner, a geochemist, has argued that the "seeds" of life probably arrived on Earth in meteorites blasted off Mars by impacts or volcanic eruptions. As evidence, he points to the oxidised mineral form of the element molybdenum, thought to be a catalyst that helped organic molecules develop into the first living structures.

    All this according to Professor Benner....

    Questions:

    What are "seeds" outside of your philosophy and metaphysical thought ? Oxidised mineral form the element molybdenum ? Thought to be a catalyst ?

    This is a joke.


    "It's only when molybdenum becomes highly oxidised that it is able to influence how early life formed,"

    nobody was there...there is no way knowing how any "influence" or what processes made life from non life What is this "influence"...this is a religious thought.

    "This form of molybdenum couldn't have been available on Earth at the time life first began, because three billion years ago, the surface of the Earth had very little oxygen, but Mars did.
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    This guy or any man on earth simply does not and cannot know this...there is absolutely no evidence for any of the things necessary for this to have happened...things like the big bang, or a singularity event, or star formation, elements forming, chemicals forming....this is stupid.

    "It's yet another piece of evidence which makes it more likely that life came to Earth on a Martian meteorite, rather than starting on this planet."

    As you can tell by the total lack of any evidence, that evidence in the quote above simply means that what I believe to be true, is. This is a religion. The rest is the doctrine, such as "life came to Earth on a Martian meteorite..."

    All living things are made from organic matter, but simply adding energy to organic molecules will not create life. Instead, left to themselves, organic molecules become something more like tar or asphalt, said Prof Benner.

    Hello. Life cannot come from nothing either...


    "Certain elements seem able to control the propensity of organic materials to turn to tar, particularly boron and molybdenum, so we believe that minerals containing both were fundamental to life first starting.


    This conclusion that "elements" seem able to control (what elements ?) propensity (? what's that ?) of organic materials to turn to tar....particularly boron and molybdenum....All this "evidence" to form this conculsion is baised on presumption and hope it be true baised on because it, and I qoute:

    thought to be a catalyst that helped organic molecules develop into the first living structures.


    "Analysis of a Martian meteorite recently showed that there was boron on Mars; we now believe that the oxidised form of molybdenum was there too."


    Sure.....


    It is clear this is propaganda....

    "The evidence seems to be building that we are actually all Martians; that life started on Mars and came to Earth on a rock,"

    From "evidence" being built (where ?) we are actually all Martians, that life started on Mars and came to earth on a rock ?

    "It's lucky that we ended up here nevertheless, as certainly Earth has been the better of the two planets for sustaining life. If our hypothetical Martian ancestors had remained on Mars, there might not have been a story to tell."


    Oh of course.
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