Need a crash course in multis, rhyme schemes, internals...

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  1. LBFHBMRBA

    LBFHBMRBA Fuck Yo Couch Nigga

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    If you want a quick way to learn easy rhymes without regards to setups, flow, or what people think of you, just listen to Charron rebuttals.
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  2. scribbles1188

    scribbles1188 Well-Known Member

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    Obviously the Deck's verse on Triumph is the best of any Wu Member on that track, and maybe one of the best verses of all time. But your dissection of Meth's verse is a joke. You're looking at it in the wrong prespective...

    As the world turns 4
    I spread like germs 4
    Bless the globe with the pestilence 8
    the hard-headed never learn 6
    It's my testament 5
    to those burned 5

    Looks a little better now?

    I know you're posting it cause you called Meth wack, in all seriousness, RIP Cheese Wagstaff. But in Triumph you could have picked out Cappadonna's verse, or Rza's "Perpendicular to the square, we stand bold like Flare
    Escape from your Dragon's Lair, in particular" Which always sounded a little forced to me, but I could look over it, cause it's such an ill track.

    Anyways, Gala, there's some good advice in this thread. If you're just starting, and taking some L's, look at your weaknesses and focus on them. Obviously balance between all these suggestions is key. The Right mix of imagery, metaphors, smilies, wordplay, structure, "swaggin", etc.

    I won't front, I don't make any music, nor have I ever tired too. All I can add is I respect your musical taste from what you usually post on here, so you should have some decent influences to guide your work. Plus you know like 3 languages so, that's pretty amazing. When you get to the point that you roll your eyes every time Mak make's a post on these boards, it means you know what you're talking about.
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  3. makaveli21

    makaveli21 king of the world

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    never mind u wrong lmao
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  4. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    supercalafragulisticespiolidopeshit you sir are a prag so visit keller when parole hits......
    rhyming climbing finding i-ching is not so hot though luke like you like food right room lights........(pause)mood

    is syllablilatwistaphile a word?
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  5. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    musics for dummies anyways, essay's are where it's at, unless they're declared as wack but you're post was on point like the answer.......lol
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  6. makaveli21

    makaveli21 king of the world

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    A bar is the time it takes to count to 4 on rhythm in a
    song. This is only true of songs in 4/4 time signature,
    but that includes every single rap song I’ve ever heard.​
    Typically the snare drum will hit on the 2
    nd and 4th beat

    actually freebass and scribes1188 is wrong lmao
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  7. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    ahhhh a bar is a form of measurement though....you don't really wanna mix in theory blitsen clearly listen and hear me......what written in words doesn't have to hardly set the bar to measure the staff ...... after party......accents take notes take care of the triplets they have to potty
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  8. Davizzy

    Davizzy New Member

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    I always looked at rapping like art. There's no right way to do it. Its kinda odd the way there's so much emphasis on rhyme placement and multis. When you put a formula to it, doesnt that take the magic out?

    I hate math though so im biased to you guys' approach. Rap is about feeling. The more you do it. The more you can feel what sounds good. And if you never feel it just right, then rap just isnt for you. I doubt Biggie and Jay are/were counting syllables in every rhyme they spit.
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  9. makaveli21

    makaveli21 king of the world

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    actually u wrong because u supposed to count the syllables

    in the line so i was right from the begining
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  10. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    in theory, dually noted....double time
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  11. makaveli21

    makaveli21 king of the world

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    nah man that don't make sense because if u look any
    great mc they studied the craft they respected the art form
    i doubt jay approach to rap was let me just rap any kind of way
    and not match his syllables in his lines same with biggie
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  12. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    ask an honest A&R rappers have few rights........
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  13. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    let's ask?.....
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  14. scribbles1188

    scribbles1188 Well-Known Member

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    This may have made me laugh.

    Yeah all those syllable counts are divisible by 4.

    You know who you are Mak? Besides the dude that turned this thread into a highjackin' of yet another HHC thread. You're the equivalent of the NFL combine for lyrics. Vertical jump, the 40, and IQ test don't measure how great of a football player you will become. You're applying that same shit to all lyrics.

    Also you called Meth wack in this thread, then made a thread saying he killed Biggie lyrically on a track. Good for you sir.
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  15. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    what came first the syllable or the dub plate
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  16. lyricalpriest

    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    upping so gal doesn't miss this gem of advice.
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  17. scribbles1188

    scribbles1188 Well-Known Member

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    This post is the Re Up.
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  18. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    on the real, i mumble or scat to beats often to find what i think sounds best......when i would write, i did so mostly trying to be clever, but eventually the schemes became there, even though i never counted sounds.......
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  19. lyricalpriest

    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    that's also a good method for improv practice .. I also find my self saying

    soemething something drasticly
    end up betting by-past gastricly.

    soemething something de-nuh de-nuh
    soemething somethingsoemething something de-nuh de-nuh...
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  20. makaveli21

    makaveli21 king of the world

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    here are some tips for wordplay


    1. Pay Attention to New Words
    Pay attention to words and their meanings in your life.
    When you read or hear words that you don’t know,

    write them down and then look up their definition.


    2 Look for Multiple Definitions
    When you do look up a word, don’t just read the first
    definition in the dictionary, read all the definitions.
    This is crucial because wordplay is based on messing

    around with multiple definitions.

    3 study slang


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    [I][FONT=ChaparralPro-BoldIt][SIZE=3][FONT=ChaparralPro-BoldIt][SIZE=3]Sick[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/I]
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    [FONT=ChaparralPro-Regular][SIZE=3]– good / physically ill[/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=ChaparralPro-BoldIt][SIZE=3][FONT=ChaparralPro-BoldIt][SIZE=3]Dope [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=ChaparralPro-Regular][SIZE=3]– good / somebody stupid / drugs[/SIZE][/FONT]


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    [SIZE=3][FONT=ChaparralPro-Regular][SIZE=3]You can also create wordplay by studying idioms.[/SIZE][/FONT]
    [SIZE=3][FONT=ChaparralPro-Regular]Idioms are phrases in a language that have a meaning[/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3][FONT=ChaparralPro-Regular]other than what they say literally. For example,[/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3][FONT=ChaparralPro-Regular]“piece of cake” means both literally a piece of cake[/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3][FONT=ChaparralPro-Regular]and something that’s easy. Idioms are a great place to[/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3][FONT=ChaparralPro-Regular]start for wordplay because they inherently have double[/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3][FONT=ChaparralPro-Regular]meaning. The rapper Legacy from Little Brother uses[/FONT][/SIZE]
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    [SIZE=3][FONT=ChaparralPro-Regular]anyone else on a team) and raps [/FONT][/SIZE]

    i hold my own like masturbation




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