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  1. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

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    lol.word that was good with one correction. God lives in eternity, time is a finite instrument for human beings to have "time" to decide who they are begotten from. An theres only 2 choices. Life or death. Jesus or satan. Eternal life or eternal death. However if u decide to go without God u die a physical and spiritual death. So u actually die twice an suffer the same fate as the one who u decided u are begotten from.
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  2. lyricalpriest

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    precisely just bc life on earth wasnt in existence doesnt mean life didn't exist itself,

    we need to really understand the term life on a more broad spectrum its more then just living and breathing it's the actual manifestation of existence. we have proof of devine creation, but some people ignore it or reject it, because something divine doesnt fit in our scoped vision on life itself.

    we cant except totality and perfection because it isn't evident in life, yet the idea is influential.

    we believe that we can pursue perfection, although we haven't seen it touched it nor tasted it.

    that my friend isn't any different than having faith in a god.

    it's called nature.. we all have it in is to pursue righteousness. some more than others.

    rejecting these truth's doesn't further man kind. accepting these facts can change the future tho.

    so answere me this

    why do people fight it?
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  3. TheBigPayback

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    ^Beautiful. The bible says that he designed the universe for our imaginations an that everything around us fits so perfectly that that in itself is evidence for God. Therefore those that defy or deny it are without excuse. But word, they fight it cus they enjoy living by their own moral compass rather than Gods which is set pretty high. But thats how we can judge whats good or bad in the first place, by following christs example which is like a 10 on the scale. We must continue to persue righteousness moving up that scale in life.
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  4. J Keeper

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    Before we talk about this, how about we define life?

    Have fun, scientists still haven't been able to.
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  5. reggie_jax

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    wouldnt that mean that all life is in his image, not just humans?

    prove it.

    because that line of rhetoric is not at all convincing.

    what are your thoughts on flying unicorns? those apparently don't exist in the real world yet we somehow managed to make them up. just like god. and perfection.
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  6. reggie_jax

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    if i wanted to believe in god without living up to his standards, i'd just do what you christians do: repent.
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  7. Saga Genesis

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    If God created life, that means life did not exist beforehand. Therefore life came from non-life. Simpleton's logic, really.

    @LP: There is no proof of divine creation. If so, please link me to your research.
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  8. lyricalpriest

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    The world of theology lends itself mostly to belief in the "God of the present and future". But when it comes time to discuss the "God of the past", theology fails miserably. It has not done
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    it's homework, in addressing the reality of the past. Therefore, theology mostly runs away from the "arena of origins".

    The world of current creationism does not understand the Genesis text, and is fragmented into various factions which teach misinformation, with doctrines which vary from the false to the foolish. Examples are theistic evolution on one end, and Creation Science on the other.

    The world of science is mostly atheistic, which has been misled by the falsehoods and foolishness of creationism, and has blindly decided upon unrealistic theories of our origins and history of life, in an attempt to explain our beginnings and continued existence.

    Yet the Word of God has always been true, even though those whom we thought could correctly explain it, actually did not understand the text themselves. Using correct literal interpretation, the biblical truth of Genesis reveals far more about our ancient prehistoric past, than modern science has ever known.

    Those which teach that modern science can not tell the difference between the remains of life forms that died 30,000 years ago, from the remains of life forms which died 300,000,000 years ago, are very foolish, and deny scientific reality. Do they also teach that the world is flat? What about those that call God a liar, by denying Exodus 20:11 (For in six days....).

    The book of Genesis does not contain any "creation accounts". Chapter two tells us about the origins of modern mankind, starting in about 7200 BC. The chapter ends in about 7000 BC, with the addition of Eve, the helpmate for Adam. Chapter one is the rendition of the "Observations of Moses", which were six visions given to Moses on Mt. Sinai, during a six day period in 1598 BC. Chapter one covers a period of time that spans about 4.5 billion years, but each 24-hr day was taken from the first week of each geologic area, in biblical order.
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  9. lyricalpriest

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    The correct reading of chapter one of Genesis gives undeniable proof of the existence of the Living God. Unlike other (human inspired) books, that have been called "holy", the Bible is actually a given
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    interface between our finite physical (natural) world, and the infinite supernatural realm, as conveyed to more than 40 people over the course of nearly 1700 years. No one person, shrouded in suspicion, created this collection of literary works. God proved His longevity by interacting with mankind over a period of many centuries, and establishing a history with a nation of people.

    The proof of God's existence is His revelation to Moses, concerning seven geologic eras of the past, which Moses could not have known about on his own. Secular science would not discover geologic time until 3000 years later. Merely reading the "first day" through the "seventh day" has little meaning, and has been called "a constructed creation myth". However, in the Gospels, the Lord Jesus reveals the chronological order of the days of Moses, to where their true meaning is uncovered. Consider the following:

    A. The Fourth Day of Moses, from Creation Week
    1. Covers the period 4.6 Billion BC to 245 Million BC
    a) Depicts the creation of the (other) celestial bodies

    B. The fifth day of Moses, from Restoration Week 1
    1. Covers the period 245 Million BC to 65 Million BC
    a) Depicts the creation of "sea monsters" and birds
    b) Discovered life forms
    i. ichthyosaurs, mosasaurs, pliosaurs, plesiosaurs,
    and archaeopteryx

    C. The sixth day of Moses, from Restoration Week 2
    1. Covers the period 65 Million BC to 42 Million BC
    a) Depicts the creation of herbivores, large animals, and the
    "remaking" of mankind into God's image
    b) Discovered life forms
    i. eohippus, indricotherium
    ii. mankind of the period not yet discovered

    These, and the remaining eras of geologic time, are given in the book "Moses Didn't Write About Creation!", published by PublishAmerica. Starting with the Fourth Day, the book puts the seven days in chronological order, as revealed by the Living Word.

    The secular world of science may call this a "convenient coincidence". But it is extremely difficult to "explain away" the fact that the "Observations of Moses" follow the order of the discovered geologic record of Earth, with visions of the ancient life forms shown to Moses, that lived during those time periods. Finally, this is the proof of the Living God.
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  10. lyricalpriest

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    (don't get me started)

    PATCH FAILED, "Over the decades, evolutionary theorists beginning with Charles Darwin have tried to argue that the appearance of multicelled animals during the Cambrian merely seemed sudden, and in fact had been preceded by a lengthy period of evolution for which the geological record was missing. But this explanation, while it patched over a hole in an otherwise masterly theory, now seems increasingly unsatisfactory. Since 1987, discoveries of major fossil beds in Greenland, in China, in Siberia, and now in Namibia have shown that the period of biological innovation occurred at virtually the same instant in geologic time all around the world. ...just as the peculiar behavior of light forced physicists to conclude that Newton's laws were incomplete, so the Cambrian explosion has caused experts to wonder if the twin Darwinian imperatives of genetic variation and natural selection provide an adequate framework for understanding evolution..." Time, 12/4, 1995, p.67, 74
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  11. TheBigPayback

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    theres a difference between saying your sorry an repenting from your heart. You must repent an turn away from the sin not just say it knowing your prolly gonna do it again tom.
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  12. snowy

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    Tell me what the weather was like on June 8th 70,000BC. You cant. The Big Bang THEORY is just that a THEORY. Its basically the science world asking for its 1 miracle. Its only asking for 1 though. And with that 1 GIANT EXTREMELY UNLIKELY moment they have basically laid out a pretty good working model of what COULD have happened. With Religion they want us to believe dozens if not hundreds of extremely unlikely miracles with just as little evidence.
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  13. lyricalpriest

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    the only difference is.. that what scientist are proving is that god did have a design in mind when creating the world. and us, and the life with in it. they prove this and deny the god's contribution, and claim it as science. god is science to an certain extent bc god created all scientific things. we call it science but to god, that's his creation.

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    those theories contradict them selves while

    the theory of divine creation has never contradicted its self once.

    these new theories come out and get proven wrong. goes to show how far the human mind is from the god mind we are ever reaching for that absolute knowledge, proof that there is more .
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  14. TheBigPayback

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    this will help. Ok so if God gave us life like him an were made after his image u ask what then makes man like God. Define the similar attributes. Ill name the main most basic one: we have the ability to create life, like God. The life we create then is made after OUR image. Thats one way. But creativity and the ability to create is a major factor in life. Angels cant do it but we are supposed to be above the angels. Its difficult but not immpossible to understand.
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  15. TheBigPayback

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    prove what that a code exists in our genetics an codes can only come from intellegence. I believe thats proof in itself.
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  16. lyricalpriest

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    im glad payback is back, i ain't as knowledgeable like he is on these things
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  17. TheBigPayback

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    U good my ninja. Actually very good. And u right I hate when people see science as the end all be all when every time they find something that contradicts it they switch it up. Science doesnt do anything but examine something an ask questions. It doesnt create whats there it discovers it. But those that see science in that way are replacing God WITH science which is foolish.
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  18. TheBigPayback

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    Christians go by the bible. Therefore our belief are that. Set in stone. We dont switch up an change the text in the bible because they found something. We just go to the bible to see what it has to say on the subject. If something seems to miraculous to be we find ways that it could be naturally like the destruction of entire cities an whatnot. But then again we arent bogged down by something that doesnt necissarily make sense to us because we know God isnt bound by the laws he created for us. However usually we can find a pretty good natural occurance that is perfectly plausible to create the outcome described ya know
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  19. lyricalpriest

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    whew amen to that one brotha!
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  20. TheBigPayback

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    u got a email ? Id pm u but i cant get to that screen on my phone.
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