Nas VS Jay-z 2013!!!

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Who makes better music?

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  1. Nas

    69.2%
  2. Jay-z

    30.8%
  1. Vulgar

    Vulgar 80s baby

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    Nas released alot of bangers during his shiny suit act. C'mon on now don't act he was a whole sell out dancing and shit. Even the video he rocked the suit in was for a fire ass song.

    With that said it still doesn't disprove Jay punted him back into relevance.

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  2. Vulgar

    Vulgar 80s baby

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    And if you can't rock to BP1and Blk Album. I dunno what to tell you bruh. Between the two albums it's maybe 4 songs I don't like.

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  3. GaLaTeA

    GaLaTeA GymArt

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    Jay-Z's gotten far too muchof a walking advertisement ad distancing himself from his beginnings of being a solid artist. But push comes to shove, he's got nothing to say, once the bling bling's taken away, whilst Nas always kept it hip hop.
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  4. Louis Armstrong

    Louis Armstrong Yeah, it's me nigga

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    I have to disagree with this one. Nas tried to floss at one point and failed miserably. People fail to realize that Nas sold out long time ago, but nobody was buying.

    Flossing and braggadocio has always been part of hip hop and there will always be a place for a resident fly nigga. I mean, why do you think all those old school rappers were wearing those big ass goldchains back in the day?
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  5. Ignorant

    Ignorant Village Idiot

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    I never liked any of that shit during that era... I keep tellin' y'all.. I'm anti-pop, candy rap... once he joined with Puff, that was it for me... I really only came back to Nas during the beef... I thought that was interesting... so you're right, Jay did re-energize him during that beef... but the fact that you acknowledge that means that he was down for awhile, otherwise, how would he need to be re-energized?

    In '99, I went back to being strictly an underground head... Rawkus, Def Jux cats... Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Co Flow, etc... plus old faves like Mobb Deep, The Roots, Common, etc.

    Jay didn't really blow up until '98 when he dropped "Hard Knock Life"... that's when he became a superstar... that's when his fanbase expanded to females, pop fans and suburbanites.
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  6. Vulgar

    Vulgar 80s baby

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    So you're proving my point. You came back to Nas yaself because of the beef. What do you mean the fact that I acknowledge he was down? That's my whole arguement the nigga was in the basement.

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  7. Ignorant

    Ignorant Village Idiot

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    But you also said some of that shit was hot during his shiny suit phase... I liked the original I Am, before it was cut and some of those disposed tracks were put on The Lost Tapes...
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  8. Vulgar

    Vulgar 80s baby

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    That was pre I AM bruh. I mean from Nastradamas til the beef he was drowning. The pink suit faze im talking is the Street Dreams vid.

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  9. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    I seriously didn't think most people had heard it tbh.....
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  10. Ignorant

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    It was bootlegged and released on mixtapes... The Source even reviewed it and was calling it a near classic, until he pushed it back and deleted those tracks.
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  11. NightmareEx

    NightmareEx The Beast

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    Disagree.

    Jay is in such a unique space. He's speaking to where he's at.

    When have we EVER seen a true lyricist come up in hip hop, rise to media mogul level, and then continue to be a relevant lyricist? Never? The perspective of having made it to the very top. Being able to say "I don't get dropped. I drop the label" etc. is very interesting to me. It's like a safari to parts of success that even other SUCCESSFUL rappers NEVER see. You're generalizing his content too much. It's a lot more compelling than that, I think.
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  12. Twamp

    Twamp proper weaponry

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    I consider Jay's new album a classic. Only 3 or 4 tracks I don't like.

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  13. Im Technical

    Im Technical I got 30 pages of rhymes

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    Classic...wtf
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  14. Vulgar

    Vulgar 80s baby

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    It's too early to call it classic. It has to stand the test of time. Shit flames though.

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  15. thedream233

    thedream233 Thrillmatic

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    Nas and Em would fit that catagory. LL Cool J did for a while.

    and that "drop the label" line is really nothing clever or witty. You just appreciate the fact that Jay's popularity is greater than that of Def Jam. When I'm impressed by Nas, I'm impressed by how dope he put togther a verse or a song itself, not any of the BS behind the scenes stuff.
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  16. NightmareEx

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    No. They would not.

    MAYBE, Marshall. But not nearly to the extent of Jay.

    And yes it is clever, and something unique to Hov's position of power. Also, duh...why else would you be impressed by a verse? We're talking about angles and content. Jay's is unique, therefor interesting and compelling. The verses themselves are solid as well.

    For instance. Hov KILLED Black Republicans. Nas's verse was better but jay still went in.
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  17. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    I think that line is witty......It is very simple and delivered as such so there is not a big emphasis on sounding like he dropped some super complex doctrine.....Nas does this very well too, he has a bunch of well worded half bars/full bars.....making something as difficult as rapping well, sound easy, is such a double edged sword that can be mistaken for not trying or even a regression in skill......obvious is not an insult on creativity, it is an observation of logic.......
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  18. Tha Cunnysmythe

    Tha Cunnysmythe Unsavoury Negroid

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    Whether the line's clever or witty isn't his point - He's saying that it's a huge deal to be able to say that and it to be true
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  19. Im Technical

    Im Technical I got 30 pages of rhymes

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    People are too happy to accept half ass albums and verses.

    Jay fell of as a rapper awhile back, he hasnt spit any goat shit for years.
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  20. thedream233

    thedream233 Thrillmatic

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    it not a huge deal though.
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