Nas best mc ever?

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  1. .:Pain:.

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    lol No. That is not called "aesthetics" you fucking idiot.

    Please, look up the definition of aesthetics, then proceed to once again, call your english teacher, and tell them they have failed at doing what they are paid to do.
    How silly of us to discuss whether or not a rapper is the greatest on a rap forum.

    Jokes on us guys!
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  2. THEDONN

    THEDONN One Love

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    um nas has "schemes"

    loil

    lame ass niggaz

    nas got story tellin, club shit, world shit

    smh

    jus like cam, pac, jada, rass kass, all them!

    they can onLY be them...there are one person...
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  3. AlexKKKeller

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    First off -- Do you know where the word "aesthetics" comes from?
    It's comes from the Aesthecians, who sought to define Art, you fucking dumbass.
    You know what their conclusion was? There is no central value, meaning, no artistic display can TRULY reign over another.
    I've probably already lost your dumbass, but ^that = no GOAT.
    Now:
    Aesthetics: "The branch of philosophy dealing with such notions as the beautiful, the ugly, the sublime, the comic, etc., as applicable to the fine arts..."
    Music is Art.
    "Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder."
    What a fucking idiot, yo.
    And -- The fact that this is a Rap forum doesn't change the fact you're pretty much dumb for trying to decide a GOAT.
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  4. TWAMP$iN

    TWAMP$iN proper weaponry

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    shut the fuck up.
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  5. AlexKKKeller

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    Ah, you substituted "I don't care for you opinion!" for "shut the fuck up."
    Nice to see a little diversity from you, Twamp :)
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  6. TWAMP$iN

    TWAMP$iN proper weaponry

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    you always try so hard but to no avail.
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  7. makaveli20

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    please nas can't even fuck with ras kass lyrically let alone all other dudes i mention . Walkin' on skulls cause I'm two steps ahead
    So I started at square three
    Now I'm Cubed like O'Shea Jackson be
    Subzero catching fatalities to my spirituality
    Smoke like a chimney, drink like a Kennedy
    Still no remedy
    Fuck shooting a fair one
    Cause open cuts from fuckin' some nigga up
    Can lead to contracting HIV positivity
    You never know who got traits of femininity
    What agwan, pussy wool blood clot
    And deal with the bullshit bodybot business faggot
    You play the villain
    There will be another soundbwoy killin'
    Benadryl pumps through my adrenaline
    Feelin' my raps weight
    I track Heavy like Tony Dofat
    Hip hop is 2% milk but mostly no fat (phat)
    And most MCs ain't prepared
    So what I say goes over your head like pubic hair
    In 1999 (flip the script)
    Triple six
    One world government "Novus Ordo Seclorum"
    Check your dead president
    Represented on the one dollar bill
    And if Clinton was the answer it was a stupid question
    My Soul's On Ice.
    this was not some simple abab rhyme the rhyme scheme in this verse was this abbcdefghijkkklmnopqrstuwxy this was more complex then any nas verse ive ever saw.
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  8. .:Pain:.

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    First off -- Do you know where the word "aesthetics" comes from?
    Dude, are you fucking retarded?

    Who has been feeding you this nonsense?

    If you're talking about the aesthetics movement and aestheticism, then you are completely fucking wrong.

    Aestheticism simply denotes a focus on beauty. Period.

    Irrationalism and existentialism are more of what you're talking about.

    And as far as you applying philosophy and then saying I'm wrong because I don't concur with your concept of it, that is equally as fucking retarded.

    Any real philosopher would say that philosophy is subjective and personal, thus forcing your particular philosophy, especially on a particular nuance of art or perception, is fucking retarded.

    Jesus FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED...
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  9. AlexKKKeller

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    Um, wtf?
    I just spent a quarter learning existentialism, tbh.
    In a nutshell, It deals with the meaning of one's own existence
    That has nothing to do with Art, or anything I am saying :funny:
    How the fuck are you denying the definition I just put in front of you?
    Here's another exert, but I'm sure you'll claim this is wrong too, like the dumbass you are:
    "The philosophical aesthetics has not only to speak about art and to produce judgments about the art works, but has also to give a definition of what art is..."
    Smh. They gave it meaning, which is that it has no central value.
    Keep being an idiot though.
    This is fun.
    Does wonders for my ego.
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  10. THEDONN

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    um makaveli u can think ras is better then nas all u want

    u aint changin my mind
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  11. makaveli20

    makaveli20 New Member

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    wasn't trying to with that said ras kass>> nas
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  12. .:Pain:.

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    Existentialism is applicable to EVERYTHING. And the fact that you said "quarter" denotes that you are studying on a HS level.

    I do the same. At a college level.
    lol @ exert.

    Way to quote wikipedia smart guy.

    Do you really think people in the 18th century first defined art? Is that what your High School Philosophy teacher has been teaching you, or did decide all your own to believe that load of horseshit?

    Not to mention the concept of Aesthetics has more to do with deep, introspective, creative reflection inspired by art than making judgments on anything.

    Jesus fucking christ you took existentialism, yet you believe that another person should subscribe to your own personal philosophy of the perception of something which does not have any empirical evidence nor any logical conclusion that cannot be countered by another supporting it, is so beyond retarded it's ridiculous.

    Let me give you some advice kid, spend less time on remember terms and phrases and more time on the application of the things you portray being so knowledgeable about.

    It's not what you know, it's how you apply it.

    So you can try and argue about particulars (aestheticism DOES have more with what I said than you, what I've said is agreed about within the concept of aesthetics, what you've stated has been debated and criticized by those within that very philosophy), but it doesn't really have shit to do with shit. You can't apply 18th century thought to modern art. You can take bits and pieces, but the entire concept and all it's particulars are no longer that relevant. Your teacher should have told you that, and perhaps shown you more modern philosophies on the subject, but you're in high school so fuck it.

    It's obvious you're younger, at least in mind and heart, and thus less aware of yourself. You turned a simple argument about whether or not a certain rapper is the best of all time into you arguing both your and my way into this nonsense. Congrats.
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  13. AlexKKKeller

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    Wtf? Seriously, waste of a read, I'm disregarding most of it...
    Here's what you fail to see, and I will repeat it one last time:
    You think there is a GOAT.
    There cannot be one, because of how beauty presents itself differently according to the observer.
    Yes, our multi-century-gone aesthetes came up with that.
    Are they wrong? No. If you think so, you're an idiot.
    Is it relevant? That depends. You have Rolling Stone making lists of the greatest artists, and even dumber people like you accepting that...
    So I'd say no.
    (But, that does nothing but prove how disgusting modern fandom is).
    AT THE END OF THE DAY:
    Your post was still horribly ironic.
    -in mortal kombat voice-
    "Alex...WINS!"
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  14. SpawnYours

    SpawnYours Gram •••••••

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    Nas > Jay-Z
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  15. Halfway_Crook

    Halfway_Crook Well-Known Member

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    Everyone suck my dick then shut up.
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  16. vandalism

    vandalism the king

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    man I don't give a fuck who was the first nigga to win a rap battle


    Rakim got 2 classic albums, first one is one of the greatest of all time, plus another dope ass album... dude's style was untouchable, and he one of the pioneers, hence why every single motherfucker you listen to pays homage to him. rakim the great, that's why he 1st. BDK pioneer but don't got classic 5-mic albums

    ghostface's "supreme clientele" is classic, plus "only built for cuban linx" is classic and ghost was half of that album with rae, plus he the standout performer on 36 Chambaz, one of the greatest albums of all time... and he got a bunch of other albums at 4 to 4.5 mic level, both solo and with the wu... his style is unmatched and he consistently been doin it for like 17 years now, that's why he 3rd

    nas got 2 classics, including the greatest album of all time, he dope as fuck and he still puttin out solid material 15 years later, thats why he 2nd. jay got some classics and he dope, that's why he'd be like 6th for me



    lol @ these niggas talkin bout aesthetics on a hip hop forum thinkin they clever :funny:
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  17. AlexKKKeller

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    It has nothing to do with being clever.
    It's just truth.
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  18. AlexKKKeller

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    Stfu.
    You're gay.
    Son.
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  19. SpAnKy

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    Twampsin's old ass is in here thinking Ice-T is the best rapper.

    Sit down, old man.
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  20. SpAnKy

    SpAnKy 플레이보이

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    Shut your old egg head ass up.

    Big headed mongoloid.

    Your gauges are pussy. Stretch up you scared bitch.
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