Nas best mc ever?

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  1. BinoSWI

    BinoSWI Half Jamaikan Half Scouse

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    his shitz wit eric b speaks for themself

    him n nas are the best 2 lyricists to ever touch the game imo (+ probs the majority of real hip hop heads)
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  2. BinoSWI

    BinoSWI Half Jamaikan Half Scouse

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    its also applicable to say witout rakim u wouldnt have ur favourite artists right now.. or they wouldnt be what they are witout him - he probs influenced the person who influenced ur favourite artists even. gamechanger
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  3. Kal-EL

    Kal-EL Krazed Familia

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    didn't ask you too...
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  4. vandalism

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    oh right you judge it on catalogue


    Paid in Full is a 5 mic classic... 5 mics in the source, 10/10 rolling stone, MTV called it greatest hip hop album of all time, that shit is a classic unanimously across the board, one of the best hip hop albums in history

    Follow the Leader also considered one of the greatest albums of all time...

    shit even Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em got 5 mics in the Source, I wouldn't call that shit classic but it's damn good



    plus ra the most influential rapper of all time, he the pioneer of all this shit, greatest MC of all time. that matters more than catalogue, these young white fucks ain't got a clue... basically what you sayin is Ra ain't enough like eminem for you so he don't make the cut... get the fuck out of here
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  5. BinoSWI

    BinoSWI Half Jamaikan Half Scouse

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    ^^^ word

    i'm not even rakims greatest fan but to call him anythin but a legend is jus ignorance
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  6. Halfway_Crook

    Halfway_Crook Well-Known Member

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    Legend for sure but not enough susbstance in his music for me. And I explicitly said I'm judging his solo work here. 18th Letter is sick but no more than 4 mics.
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  7. vandalism

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    solo work?? nigga he the only fucking MC on any of his joints, you might as well not consider eminem's first 3 albums because they ain't solo albums, they "collaborations with Dr Dre"


    god damn some fuckwit shit gets talked on here
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  8. BinoSWI

    BinoSWI Half Jamaikan Half Scouse

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    r u messin lad? hes the only 1 spittin on his shit?
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  9. Biggles_Worth

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    # 2 after big smalls
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  10. AlexKKKeller

    AlexKKKeller New Member

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    Word.
    Twamp$in is gay with that.
    Idk why he thinks people care about him caring for their opinions.
    "ZOMG YOU KNOW WHAT??? YOUR OPINION DON'T MATTER TO ME NO MORE! NEH NEH NE NEH NEH!!"
    Shit is lame, tbh.
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  11. .:Pain:.

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    Verse for verse, Rakim can't hang with most of the top "modern" emcees.

    Period.

    Like Gorilla said, I have a lot of respect for the guy and what he did, he should be forever hailed in the highest echelons of hip-hop, but should never be called the GOAT.

    What you cats call "advanced lyricism" is just a guy talking about the streets and making the end of the sentence rhyme. It's more than that.

    And lol @ whoever it was who condemned people for not calling Rakim the GOAT, then proceeding to tell them to hump their Eminem posters.

    Coincidentally, Rakim was the one that said "If Em wasn't white, he'd be considered the GOAT."

    Hip-hop has advanced by leaps and bounds since Rakim's time. It'd be like calling Robert Johnson the best blues guitarist of all time. Yea, he played shit that even people today can't imitate, and he influenced and entire genre, but to say he's the greatest? Eh.

    For the record, I don't think Nas is the GOAT. I think it's a joint title held by Jigga and Nas...
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  12. THEDONN

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    dog rakim paved da way for nas to be ill, for jigga to be ill

    believe that.

    jus cuz theres new better rapin rappers out there now

    dont take away the fact rakim paved da way for lyricm to become the way it is today
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  13. .:Pain:.

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    ^Where did I say otherwise?
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  14. THEDONN

    THEDONN One Love

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    Hip-hop has advanced by leaps and bounds since Rakim's time
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  15. TWAMP$iN

    TWAMP$iN proper weaponry

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    this thread reeks of a few idiots.
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  16. THEDONN

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    ^^datz whut u said...l

    so i say he paved da way

    his shit in 80's and 90's

    is classic and legendary

    datz why u got 40 yr OG'z claimin rakim, or a krs, or chuck d, or a kool g rap is top 5, or number 1...

    eras change

    the world gets more ppl on it

    and more ill rappers come about
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  17. BinoSWI

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    nahhh he def is the GOAT if u know what great means

    great means of major significance or importance... or thats my definition, nd rakim was the most significant thing to happen 2 hip hop ever
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  18. BinoSWI

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    u can't just take his albums outta context like that by sayin "lyricism has moved on leaps and bounds" when he's one of the crucial stages in the evolution of it...
    imo.
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  19. .:Pain:.

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    That in no way contradicts what you said.
    Rakim was more significant to hip-hop than Kool Moe Dee and The Treacherous Three or Grandmaster Flash?

    Fucking REALLY?!

    BDK came out BEFORE Rakim. Why doesn't he get the credit?

    Influence and significance are one TWO of the criteria when judging a GOAT. Skill, mastery, creativity, etc. etc. etc. also factor in.

    You people need to stop getting your info from rapmusic.com and do some REAL research...
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  20. .:Pain:.

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    I seriously find it not only funny, but quite hypocritical that most of you would have Rakim number one but then would leave out people like Kool Herc, Krs-One, Kurtis Blow, etc.

    As if Rakim is the only one in hip-hop who ever did anything to progress the art form.

    Reasonable Doubt was a landmark in hip-hop. Illmatic was another. Paid In Full was as well, but all three stand on equal footing...
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