Idk about the "goon" thing, but yeah, they do take a minute to get to the point. It can be annoying. Not trying to get into this Con vs Goodz thing because it's been debated to death. Con had some good punchlines during that Goodz battle, but he had no performance and some of those "punchlines" were just corny and cringe-worthy. I like a combo between bars and performance, personally.