Most progressive African-American's of All-Time. "THE LIST"

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  1. d-rell

    d-rell New Member

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    And likely the flat-out most progressive Americans... being that racial-surpression is a flaw or a contradiction in the american constitution




    1.) Thurgood Marshall
    2.) Benjamin Banneker
    3.) Martin Luther King
    4.) Malcolm X
    5.) Alexander Crummell
    6.) Harriet Tubman
    7.) W.E.B. Du Bois
    8.) Martin Delany
    9.) Frederick Douglass
    10.) Booker T. Washington
    11.) A. Philip Randolph
    12.) Andrew Young
    13.) Oprah Winfrey
    14.) James Weldon Johnson
    15.) George Washington Carver
    16.) Sojourner Truth
    17.) Muhammed Ali
    18.) Ralph Bunche
    19.) Granville Woods
    20.) Jackie Robinson
    21.) Sidney Portier
    22.) Jonnie Cochran
    23.) Hiram Revels
    24.) Barry Gordy
    25.) Ralph Abernathy
    26.) Roy Wilkins
    27.) Phillis Wheatley
    28.) Charles Drew
    29.) Spike Lee
    30.) Langston Hughes
    31.) Ida B. Wells
    32.) Paul Lawrence Dunbar
    33.) Carter Woodson
    34.) Mary McLeod Bethune
    35.) Shirley Chisholm
    36.) Whitey Moore Young Jr.
    37.) Medgar Evers
    38.) Rosa Parks
    39.) Bobby Seale
    40.) Paul Robeson
    41.) Bill Cosby
    42.) Edith Sampson
    43.) Bob Johnson
    44.) Huey P. Newton
    45.) Harriet Jacobs
    46.) Jesse Jackson
    47.) James Brown
    48.) Zora Neale Hurston
    49.) Henry Aaron
    50.) Cornel West
    52.) Nat Turner
    53.) Jesse Owens
    54.) Stevie Wonder
    55.) Althea Gibson
    56.) Eldridge Cleaver
    57.) Alex Haley
    58.) Louis Farakhan
    59.) Billie Holiday
    60.) Jack Johnson
    61.) James Baldwin
    62.) Ray Charles
    63.) Stokley Carmichael
    64.) Barbra Jordan
    65.) Daniel Hale Williams
    66.) Nat King Cole
    67.) Barack Obama*
    68.) Nikki Giovanni
    69.) Jim Brown
    70.) Alice Walker
    71.) Viven Thomas
    72.) Al Sharpton
    73.) Sammy Davis Jr.
    74.) Russell Simmons
    75.) Micheal Jordan
    76.) Ella Fitzgerald
    77.) Colin Powell
    78.) Fannie Lou Hamer
    79.) Angela Davis
    80.) Micheal Jackson*
    81.) Dred Scott
    82.) H. Rap Brown
    83.) Maya Angelou
    84.) Arthur Ashe
    85.) Myles Monroe
    86.) Louis Armstrong
    87.) Diana Ross
    88.) Richard Wright
    89.) Norbert Rillieux
    90.) Alvin Ailey
    91.) Tupac Shakur
    92.) Edward Brooke
    93.) T.D. Jakes
    94.) Halle Berry
    95.) Micheal Eric Dyson
    96.) Tiger Woods
    97.) kara Walker
    98.) Denzel Washington
    99.) Henry Bannarn
    100.) Eddie Robinson



    so many, many, many, more...I wish I could include wild cards like Bill Clinton*, Condoleezza Rice, Diddy, William Lloyd Garrison*, Chuck D, Duke Ellington, Gordon Parks, Charlayne Hunter-Gault....ect.

    * = honorary nikkha

    Every month...

    is black history month
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  2. All I see is a list of people that Leftist bleeding heart types allowed to have a say in things.
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  3. BlackSoultan Ad Infinitum

    BlackSoultan Ad Infinitum aka Billy Shoreview

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    Yeah, I guess that would be all you see...
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  4. Offbeat

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    check ur list alot of them are only 1/2 black
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  5. d-rell

    d-rell New Member

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    ^^^
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    "One Drop" = at least partial identification with the struggle.

    Know your history

    How many times do I have to go through this with you quasi- and pseudo-intellectuals...

    African-Americans are brilliant. The socio-political systems of America had no choice but to include us, this is what the masses fail to realize. The right wing platform builders and policy makers are nothing more than idealistic swindlers selling a false sense of control, and thats it, they're just doing what every conservative politician is bred to do, appeal to the majority. That's classic democracy right? In America, whites are the majority, and what would whites prefer to believe? That all cultural progression contrary to their order was given allowance by some blacksheep group of radicials that rebelled against traditional customs and beliefs and all of sudden jumped on some World Peace, Freedmen's Bureau, Haight Ashbury, plight and rescued all the coloreds from their misery. So this is what conservative leadership sells its followers, the exact idea's they want to believe: "that the cause of all progressive social movements where successful anomalies due to the highly influential Christian sympathy of the white man." This way, ideally, they are able to maintain practicality, (because clearly minorities have advanced over time) but more importantly, they're able to maintain their superiority. But is it true? No, not exactly. The truth is, the almighty right itself was put under coercion through its own principles. The United States economy was quickly growing and expanding in the 19th century due primarily to innovations fueling mass production and world demand for materials and products within its industry. But if it wanted to be a hegemony, even a superpower, it would have to improve its foreign polical influence. How would they do this? By threatning to restrict its domestic exports if the rest of the world wouldn't comply with its order? By getting into tariff battles with established nations and other rising powers? No, this would cause a negative effect on our thriving markets. America hyped up the value of its economic and political systems by crediting them for its rapidly growing wealth. It struck gold with its expanded free market concepts, free press concepts, and its concepts of civil liberties under a revised democracy. This is what our leaders sold the world, we sold them a share in America, and so here comes the neo-immigrants of the time, the skilled workers, the foreign investors. However, American democracy must be preserved in order for the nation's success to find continuum. But what happens when that democracy is called into question? What happens to this powerful product of America when forecast predicts a decrease in value? Well its golden policy needs to be refined, its globalized product needs to be repakaged, in other words its time for reform. In the 50's and 60's the press is capturing images of police brutality during non-voilent protest, and what are the people marching for....Civil Rights? In mist of all the international coups and rebellions against colonial rule in other governments, the blacks in America just want equal-opportunity? How can democracy be so barbaric? The networks in media, clearly entities apart from the government, exercise they're constitutional right to free press, capturing the best stories of the week, trying to capitalize and gain the market share in their industry (free market). There is violent civil unrest (race riots), mass demostration marches, african-americans spreading their message oversea's and threatning to appeal to the united nations, before that, there were slave rebellions and narratives by former slaves exposing the horrors of slavery and the contradictions in American democracy. Police were jailing negro's, the Klan was killing negro's, but they were resilient and determined to be a steakholder in the country their hands built. Simply put, the tradionalist had to reform, they had to change, or lose all of what is America.
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  6. Multiple ML

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    you left out Yinka Dare
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  7. Offbeat

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    i dont agree with one drop rule

    half black people are....... half black

    like fredrick douglass for example

    hes 1/2 white, so if u wana go by one drop, then u could easily say hes one of the most progressive white americans ever
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  8. d-rell

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    I didn't make the rules...

    The majority culture did...

    And in effect it created a solidarity among a group that shared at least one thread in common... a popular culture discrimination

    We're all connected, Frederick Douglas for example may have been a product of massa molesting a young african slave girl, but his narrative helped expose the disgustingly foul crime of slavery in the Southern states...that means every slave from the polite and mannerly house slave to the darkest pureblooded west african field slave


    Rules such as these help define the struggle, and thus help define what is "black", a term I use synonmous with African-American...

    So most progressive Blacks of all-time if you'd rather
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  9. menaz

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    Could be worse the conservatives could have left all blacks to the Dixiecrats who were the main majority of people who oppressed blacks and didn't want their inclusion. Conservatives not so much. You're suggesting whitey couldn't possibally be an abolishionist or civil rights advocate. You can't see the subjectiveness of your argument? Even Frederick Douglas sided with the libertarians (today refered to as the conservative party) for this reason.

    The group you should be pissed at is the Dixiecrats known today as the DEMOCRATS. If it wasn't for the democrats/dixiecrats prolonged control over the senate and house for so many centuries blacks would have had the the civil rights act of 1875 . Yet again written by republican congressmen benjamin butler and charles Sumner in 1870.
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  10. d-rell

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    Conservative politics are the politics that are centered around preserving tradition. In the times you're referring to the Democrats were the conservative party. It wasn't until the bureaucratic programs of the New Deal were implemented that the Democrats became associated with the left. A few years later, the states rights supporting Dixiecrats emerged under Strom Thurmond creating a third party (Republicans, Democrats, Dixiecrats). The Dixiecrats were representivies of the southern right wing, they were at odds with the democrats. Harry Truman was a democrat at the time the Dixiecrats were sweeping the South, (because of unfair voter discrimination practices) and Harry Truman was integrating the armed forces.
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  11. Tequila Jong-il

    Tequila Jong-il SALAD TOSSER

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    ROFL@having the dude who invented peanut butter as the 15th greatest black of all time.
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  12. Sodium

    Sodium I Get Computers Putin'

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    lol @ michael jackson # 80
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  13. Tupac Shakur as #91!?

    wtf who made tis list, a 5th grade class room?

    Where is the black guy that invented the inductor switch for train circuits?
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  14. Offbeat

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    im just sayin i dont agree with it

    kinda like what gary sheffield said about derek jeter... "hes not all the way black"

    fredrick douglass is just as white as he is black

    u feels me

    my wifey is black, im white

    my kids are not going 2 be black lol
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  15. d-rell

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    That's not the American way of looking @ it...

    If there were still a de jure Jim Crow, your kids would be using the colored restrooms, along with your wife...


    be outraged @ the establishment
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  16. Steve Schade

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    Diddy? Get the fuck outta here

    That list is a joke
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  17. Offbeat

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    i am "outraged"

    but ur contributing 2 it

    i dont mean 2 take away from this thread btw

    it just got sidetracked cuz theres alot of mixed people on there
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  18. d-rell

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    hata

    Drop:

    Diddy's net worth as of 2007 = 400 million

    He has an multi-award winning clothing line, Sean John
    His 'Unforgivable' fragrance was an instant top-seller

    Responsible for recruiting such talent as: Joedici, Mary J. Blige, 112, Big Smalls, Mase, and ect. He created the sound of 90's in many aspects

    Has sold over 10 millions albums

    Started one of the most successful rap labels ever

    Produced dozens of hit records for a variety of pop artist


    @ age 37

    How progressive is that resume...

    And still fails to crack top 100.
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  19. So Diddy owns a pile of money that is most likely tied up in his business and in investment firms/mutual funds owned by white people while donates a few things to tax deductable black charities for PR reasons.

    Great.

    o_O

    Paul McCarthy isn't going on my list of Top 100 people. Not by a long shot.
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  20. d-rell

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    White people are the majority in a democratic nation...

    It'll take a miracle for to gain wealth relative to our talent in this system...

    And thats what black men like Diddy are, surely it counts for something, surely that fits the definition of progressive...not GREATNESS, but it is however progressive

    Diddy is beating the system by selling the majority consumers (lower and middle class white kids) a product thats too attrative to resist and too addictive to let go

    Nevertheless, the black youth is a big market as well
    He's selling them an image of class and star power




    If Paul McCarthy was on your list of most progressives, then Micheal Jackson would have to be far head, being that he own Paul McCarthy, literally
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