Miracles and science...

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  1. reggie jax

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    not necessarily. some supernatural claims are impossible to test, others are perfectly testable but just haven't ever actually been demonstrated. an example of a testable claim would be human levitation. if you could do this, you could easily demonstrate it under controlled conditions. this would be inexplicable from a scientific point of view.

    claims which aren't testable in any way aren't really worth as much consideration to me. see russell's teapot. there is an infinite number of proposals humans can come up with that can't be explicitly proven or disproven. the only two options i can see is to either be open towards every idea which can't be substantiated, or to take the fact that it can't be substantiated as a reason not to try to integrate it with my model of reality. i like the second option better.

    yes, and i would argue there's a good reason that all of the evidence is strictly anecdotal. i don't see the existence of anecdotes about inexplicable events as evidence for those events. i see the consistency with which these anecdotes manifest without any hard evidence to back them up as a good indication that the scientific models are not actually being compromised here and that instead the stories are either misinterpretations or outright lies.
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  2. ChromeDepot

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    No...because they aren't scientific. They're bullshit.

    Souls, curses, witches, and magic? You're fried.
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  3. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    i see what ya sayin, but science can and will when we figure out whats going on i think. Specially things like the psychic phenomenon, aliens, ufo's.

    because once its proven all exist science will be able to study it and learn from it, like if we became friends with aliens, they could explain their science to us. Theyre obviously smarter and could teach us. Then wed have our new science and math from the aliens.

    but yeah.. i was nitpickin your examples.... im not lookin for response just for you to think about that
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  4. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

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    Not saying science cannot ever explain them. Just that science is not the answer.
    science only explains things that pre exist. science didnt create them. it just observes them and gives them a name.
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  5. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

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    You just lack life experience. study these topics then come at me.
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  6. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    yeah i agree, i think science is not always the answer
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  7. reggie jax

    reggie jax Well-Known Member

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    science explains things that can actually be observed. it doesn't 'create' anything but it illuminates things that we are otherwise blind to. it is the answer when it comes to questions of what's real and what's not, because it's the only reliable method of describing reality.
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  8. GaLaTeA

    GaLaTeA GymArt

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    I wasn't aware that the university of Charlatanism existed.
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  9. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    Gal you dont believe in the possibility of psychics, ufo's, ghosts etc?

    im not here to convince you its real.
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  10. GaLaTeA

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    Until something can be empirically proven, no. But as far as psychics go, absolutely not ~ most of my experiences with those people (always against my will or an actual warrant of their services on my behalf) is that they work off of what little info they can get out of a person and go from there. They're real people, their abilities however, are not.

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  11. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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  12. zyclon B gas

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    kid drowned in california. nobody could revive him. church group he went with prayed for him.

    something like 20-45 minutes passed.

    he woke up. no brain damage. no ill effects. nothing wrong.

    explain scientifically please.
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  13. JASON ANTHONY

    JASON ANTHONY White Devil

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    miracle of science
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  14. JASON ANTHONY

    JASON ANTHONY White Devil

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    he's a mutant
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  15. GaLaTeA

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    Link?
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  17. GaLaTeA

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    Waterworld, right?
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  20. Geedorah

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    1 out of million chance.
    Explain scientifically someone winning a lottery.
    IS winning lottery miracle also?
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