Lp - vs - Payback >Bible topic debate thread

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  1. TheBigPayback

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    Lp u can have the honors of picking the topic

    no copying, no pasting, no pandering, no pussyfooting

    ur tools= the bible. hebrew/greek concordance. ur brain.

    structure = topic, and one reply each, then next topic.


    discussions can be saved for after all replies have been made to each topic.
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  4. lyricalpriest

    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    Shalom akh. May God Lead you in his spirit!
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  5. lyricalpriest

    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    First task I would like you to perform the task of providing scripture to debunk these 20 reasons I believe you should abandon christianity.

    Christianity is based on dishonesty
    Christianity is extremely egocentric
    Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality Christianity breeds authoritarianism Christianity is cruel
    Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific
    Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex Christianity produces sexual misery Christianity has an exceedingly narrow, legalistic view of morality Christianity encourages acceptance of real evils while focusing on imaginary evils
    Christianity depreciates the natural world
    Christianity models hierarchical, authoritarian organization Christianity sanctions slavery Christianity is misogynistic Christianity is homophobic The Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ's teachings The Bible is riddled with contradictions Christianity borrow
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  6. NightmareEx

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    Absolutely the best thing you've ever found to copy and paste on RM.

    Props to whoever wrote this originally.
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  7. TheBigPayback

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    'A' topic foo.
    If u want one of those then pick one and post ur arguement
    or scripture u think supports that.

    must be the reading comprehension thing again.
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  8. Ass Napkin Ed

    Ass Napkin Ed DC - 19th & Benning Rd

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  9. Put it in my Mouth

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    This will be a silly debate so I will gif it often
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  11. Put it in my Mouth

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  13. Put it in my Mouth

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  14. lyricalpriest

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    I asked you to use scripture to refute those 20 points

    I wrote that my self its been written before jesus swag imo
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  15. TheBigPayback

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    Pick one dont get ahead of yourself.
    choose ur favorite. or whichever one u have the most faith in being able to defend
    Then post ur evidence u think supports it.
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  16. lyricalpriest

    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    Slavery- the bible gives detailed directions about it,

    There are numerous biblical passages that implicitly or explicitly endorse slavery, such as Exodus21:20–21: "Andifa mansmite hisservant, or hismaidwitha rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money." Other passages that support slavery include Ephesians 6:5, Colossians 3:22, Titus 2:9–10, Exodus 21:2–6, Leviticus 25:44–46, 1 Peter 2:18, and 1 Timothy 6:1. Christian slave owners in colonial America were well acquaintedwiththesepassag
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  17. TheBigPayback

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    Cool.

    slavery.
    So lets look at the biblical context of slavery.

    In most cases the life of a slave was not much different from the life of any lower-class worker. Those who have been in the military have experienced something like it —being legally bound to an employer and to a job that one cannot simply “quit” at will, not free to leave without permission

    The reason- in biblical times "slavery" was a form of servatude.
    We have a different understanding of what slavery is from
    our American past but there are many reasons people in those times would
    voluntarily or involintarily become slaves.
    but the main reasons were to learn trades earn a living
    to pay off debts or bills or loans or taxes.

    Voluntary slavery is a completely different situation. Voluntary slavery arises when a person becomes so poor that they cannot make a living, cannot provide for themselves, and sell themselves into a relationship with a person who has money and can provide for the poor person. The Hebrew word for this is “ebed.” meaning servant, or bondman. In fact the Bible even describes Israel in the exact same manner as the Lord’s bondservant, or slave, the same word "ebed"

    In fact old testiment law even saught to limit and regulate the practice
    in the wider sense and outside of jewish law
    by instituting "the 7 year jubilee" which was a forgiveness of loans
    and debt every 7 years. (Context exodus 20:10)

    which we dont even have the pleasure of recieving now. btw.

    However, unlike slavery in other cultures the masters of biblical context
    did not hold absolute rights or control over slaves. and the forms
    of servatude known as "slavery" in the old testiment was permitted but never
    considered morally ideal. even though other governments at the time
    (Like rome) had a cultural makeup of up to 80-90% of their populations
    as true slaves under true slavery.(duet 15:18)

    Unlike some ancient cultures, and certainly unlike the American South -the slaves in the Old Testament were recognized as full persons who possessed human dignity and basic rights (Deuteronomy 5:14; Job 31:13-15). Abusing one’s slaves and servants was viewed as being both imprudent and immoral (Deuteronomy 23:15-16). Christianity in the church played a major role in ggaining rights for slaves even in america and during the civil rights movement as well. (See mlk) in fact 1 timothy 1:10 is even quoted in the writings
    of the civil rights laws
    Now The New Testament indicates that in God’s sight there is “neither slave nor free” (Galatians 3:28; Colossians 3:11) and that both are part of Christ’s church and equally accountable to God (Ephesians 6:5-9)

    The word context is the meaning within its surrounding text
    so when u do something like quote

    Leviticus 25
    “However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.” (Leviticus 25:44-46)

    You have plucked this verse out of context and we must look at the entire context within its text....

    so if u simply read a few verses earlier(why i tell u to stop taking youtubes word for it) ud see it actually says

    “If any Israelites living near you become so poor that they sell themselves to you as a slave, you shall not make them do the work of a slave. They shall stay with you as hired workers and serve you until the next Year of Restoration.”
    (Lev. 25:39-40)
    (Continued above)


    Case. point. Problem=being contextually ignorant

    destroyed.



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  18. Put it in my Mouth

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    oh hell to the no, these are some longs as posts

    it's gif/meme time.....
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  19. Put it in my Mouth

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  20. AliceHouse

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    TBP, case wasn't destroyed. All you did was promote the idea that slavery is acceptable. Just because you add "be nice" doesn't make it right.
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