lotta u gotta wrong idea about God and his role in bad things happening to people

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  1. TheBigPayback

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    God doesn't cause natural disasters, hurt people, make people poor or anything. Take job for instance, its when God removes or withdrew his hand from Jobs life when bad shit befell him. So if God WASNT around shit would just be ALL bad. But Gods hand on someones life provides protection, peace, love, and a hedge around them in the supernatural so bad stuff cant touch u. God is the only thing keeping the order from becoming chaos. Like everything we know eventially becomes random and chaotic, the presence of God creates order, and unity in an otherwise random and unorderly universe.
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  2. reggie_jax

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    god doesnt interfere at all with natural disasters etc

    its an impossibility if you consider the nature of god

    if he's all powerful, all knowing, and the creator of everything

    then its impossible that something would happen that he didn't plan for

    so if you're saved by some unexpected miracle in the midst of a disaster, then it was planned all along for you to be saved

    you can give the credit to god if you like but just know he didn't swoop in and interfere on your behalf. everything was already mapped out. everyone who lived was destined to live, and everyone who died met their inevitable fate as well
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  3. Shadow

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    Natural Disasters are the Earth's doing. It was programmed into the Earth to do certain things to cleanse itself or heal itself. It's not God saying, "hey, let's wipe some people out!"
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  4. TheBigPayback

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    right but in the cases where that happens is when he withdraws his hand. In a case like haiti they had a lot of voddo and cultic shit, similar to new orleans. So in some cases he doesnt come where he isnt wanted.
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  5. reggie_jax

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    what do you mean by he withdraws his hand? shadow is right... natural disasters are needed to maintain the planet. they are his doing because he designed the planet this way. everything is his doing if he is the creator of everything. there is no unusual chaos or whatever when bad shit happens, except in the hearts of men. but the laws of nature are held up. how can natural law still function if god's hand is withdrew?
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  6. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    i'm with shadow here, to an extent.

    take the sun for instance, when it explodes and everything ends - most will say it was god who wanted it to blow up.

    no, it's a star - by nature they expire.

    but with the same token, the creator knows what he has created ...

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  7. TheBigPayback

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    right but also cus earth wasnt built to hold up under the weight /amount of sin these days either. So its actually speeding up to a eventual chaotic uproar.
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  8. TheBigPayback

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    i mean God is the glue that creates the unity we see. Withdrawing his hand would allow natural chaos to occur. So in essence if God didnt have a hand in the order we see...there wouldnt be order. From the sun rising to u having a blessed day.
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  9. reggie_jax

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    ok.. but that doesn't apply to natural disasters because there is nothing random or chaotic about them.. they function exactly as they are supposed to

    the sun failing to rise would mean that the earth stopped spinning. if that ever happens then i might actually convert just to be on the safe side.
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    if god is the 'glue' holding the universe together, then how come when he withdraws his hand the law of gravity doesn't vanish and we all don't float into space?
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  11. Nu'maaN

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    who are we to ponder upon what god does and doesn't do.

    he is our creator, we are his creation.

    end of story ...

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  12. TheBigPayback

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    right but no physical material is designed to be infinite. He set a timeframe, there will be an end if there was a begining. An there was a begining..it even says he wrote the end from the begining.
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  13. reggie_jax

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    he gave us the ability to think and reason. i'd say he wants us to ponder.
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    Isnt God in control of his hand though? If we concede to your line of thought, I dont see how hes not responsible. After all this time he would have learned that his absence causes these disasters and so each time he removes his hand he would have to be fully aware of the danger hes putting his creation in.
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  15. TheBigPayback

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    Hasnt he done that b4. I recall a chapter on a battle where they needed cover so God held back the sun from rising so the enemy didnt see em. Dont remember which ch it was tho
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  16. M-theory

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    When people allow terrible things to happen, we look to God for answers.

    When God allows terrible things to happen, who can we look to?
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    double post...
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    Acknowledge God as all-powerful and all-knowing but don't hold him accountable for anything negative.

    lol.
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  20. TheBigPayback

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    Think about it. If God is love how can even he go against his own nature? If God is Good, how can he be bad? If god wants you to live and even trys to help you live why so many yall keep dyin? Obviously its your own disobediance. If u followed Gods laws what harm could befall you? Stop using him as a scapegoat. Thats like gettin hit in the back of the head with a rock and gettin mad at the rock.
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